Global Warming or Cycles of the Sun?
Posted 21 November 2012 - 05:37 PM
Seriously, Andy? We created an ozone hole, banned CFCs, and saw a recovery. We had massive acid rain in the norheast from mid-west coal plants. We enacted SO2 controls on power plants and largely fixed it.
The speculation of that article is just that - speculation. It's something that Rush Limbaugh would say. "Well who's to say that it's just not the poles reversing cause some skeptic brought that up in some article somewhere?" Well, I'll say: millions of dollars of independent, peer-reviewed research backed by zillions of date points, NASA satellite images, etc., etc., etc. back the climate change research. All the skeptics have is the Limbaughs and the Exxon-backed for-profit scientists saying: "Well, it could be a volcano, or solar flares, or something. We couldn't possibly effect the climate." Yup, just like we didn't effect ozone, acid rain, I suppose Love Canal never happened, we certainly didn't cause any damage to a generation of Japanese w' our nukes, no long-term issues with agent orange, mercury in fish, .... Seriously? You're willing to just speculate that maybe this is all a fluke? A 100k cycle? Yes, that is a possibility too. A 1% possibility that nature is the cause of all of this and we're on the sidelines as a minor contributor. But the 99% of millions of dollars and decades of research suggests we might be having a little more impact. It would be highly coincidental that we just happen to be experiencing a 1 in 100k yr geologic anomaly right at our time of peak CO2 output. You going to go with 1 in a trillion odds that that is the case, or look at the science and our track record?
Last i checked, human beings are a part of Nature...who is not to say that whatever affect we have on the planet is neccesary in the grand scheme? How else can trapped CO2 be released, ores purified into their elemental states, and gasses redistributed ito the atmosphere? Human beings play that role on the planetary scale.
Posted 21 November 2012 - 06:51 PM
Mount Tongariro just erupted on the North island of New Zealand releasing more CO2 than the entire industrial revolution.
Not sure if this is 100% accurate, but it was my point that one of these eruptions do more than humans do in a single year, and probably 5-10 years.
Posted 22 November 2012 - 11:23 PM
Posted 23 November 2012 - 06:01 PM