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[capt_morgan]

...without it turning you mean?

[Eco]

A natural plant that has been cross breed to help with pain without really giving much of a "high". I have friends that grow the plant for MMJ patients in one of those nice states where it's legal.

ANY sort of chemical pain meds make me an angry SOB....I assume they have the same effect on you?

[Alexias87]

Massage Therapy can make a great difference as well as acupressure and acupuncture

[capt_morgan]

yea pain meds are not an option....i ruined all that in my early 20's

[capt_morgan]

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[jnjn]

i'm sorry you're in such pain all the time, cap't.
there's no real way to not be angry about it...it's how you channel & deal w/ that anger that makes all the difference imo.

as far as reducing the pain...strength & mobility are key. sounds painful & most definitely will be in the beginning, but you must build back the strength in surrounding areas. strong muscles protect joints & bones. constant mobility is just as important. even healthy individuals without injury end up w/ pain & stiffness in certain areas from not moving & stretching enough. gentle yoga has done wonders for people.

if i were you i wouldn't try to do anything too intense w/o the advice or supervision of a dr/therapist. hopefully soon you'll be able to start seeing a physical therapist. it's not easy & requires a ton of patience, but i think it would greatly enhance your quality of life

[nancykind]

don't stop moving, as much as it hurts to move. is it joint pain? you could try alfalfa for that

[PeaceFrog]

wow dude, I'm so sorry to hear you're still in so much pain

I was actually just thinking to myself how grateful I am that my pain is mostly gone. Pain itself makes you generally miserable and lowers your tolerance for anything else.

Have you tried a chiropractor? Is it your hip?

I never really believed in chiropractors, but I tried one for my shoulder as a last resort and I am a true believer now.

This past week my neck was killing me after drilling overhead for 8 hours during the day... both times I stopped at the chiropractor on my way home from work and the pain was gone instantly.

Now, it did take almost a year to finally get to this point with regular adjustments and doing prescribed exercises, but the juice was worth the squeeze (I've been waiting to use that expression ever since I heard it not too long ago, thanks)... I'm really amazed because when you're in pain, it feels like it could never possibly go away but believe me it can.

I don't know the specifics of your problem... I hope it isn't too serious.

Oh, and the anti-depressant Cymbalta is indicated for chronic-pain relief. I'm sure it helps some people and not others. (It raises the serotonin in your brain like E, only all the time)

The opiates can give you a temporary feeling of elation, and the miserable mood is when they begin to wear off.

When you first start taking them, I believe you get miserable right away and sometimes sick.

The thing about those is, if you take half as much twice as often you get the same levals but without the swings.

[capt_morgan]

i do have a high threshold for pain...so i dont need to take anything. although i do tend to get pretty drunk on the bad days.
but basically i have the opposite of arthritis...where my bone joints decay. theres no cure...ill always have it. and the hip is the most problematic spot for it to occur. the other joints dont require treatment...but the hip, being the hip...its obvious to see the sensitivity.

so basically, they drilled up my femoral head (which is that handle looking thing on the top of my femur which goes into my hip socket) and scraped out all the bad bone.
then they packed the hole with new bone they drilled out of my knee....bone graft'd
the problem is only 50-75% of it took....so when i walk around i feel like theres a bunch of jagged edges scraping against my hip socket. thats what hurts.

ive learned to walk and pivot in ways to minimize the pain...but sometimes i just see white

[PeaceFrog]

fuck bro... that's way more complicated than I imagined... real sorry to hear that.

wish I had more advice for you. Have you tried Cymbalta? It might work.

[capt_morgan]

ill be fine...a few years of this and ill be old enough for a hip replacement...then no more pain

nothing lasts forever

[kenbud]

A magical plant, some breathing exercises, some minor stretching, warm showers, and some where to lean/sit.

[kenbud]

yeah and booze, hope ya find something that works for ya,

[Ginger Snap]

would acupuncture help?

[TEO]

Other than shutting myself away from people when feeling particularly snappish I have yet to find a way.

[capt_morgan]

its a constant test of patience...

[capt_morgan]

and now my knee is swollen like a grapefruit...new development

[TEO]

Wonderful, not.

[PeaceFrog]

seriously, if I could give you some magic insight I would, but all I know is Celebrex... you can take up to 600 mg

oh and tray Pennsaid for the knee. It is a topical anti-inflammatory. You apply it several times a day and it does work.

and for the mood...well... like I said, Cymbalta. If you're having anxiety and you have a good doctor he or she can give you benzodiazepines such as Valium, Xanax, or Ativan.

But if you can't afford health care then you're totally fucked and we should start a donation fund or something.

[capt_morgan]

no pills...this must be done from the inside

[kenbud]

It's hard not to flip, little breaks- breeeeeath, and think of something better. like vibes/good time/other. Hope things work out.

[capt_morgan]

its actually not even that much of an issue anymore. im getting used to the pain...and pushing through it. i just need to be aware of my weaker moments...to avoid any misplaced anger

[PeaceFrog]

pills work from the inside

[Al the Massage Guy]

As a NYS Licensed Massage Therapist I might suggest Myo-Facial Release technique to relax the tissue around the hip and throughout the leg. This wrapping can get stiff and decrease the range of motion of the joint. Deep tissue techniques like MFR can work to release these 'stuck' areas and increase ROM & decrease pain. With frequent sessions you can be in substantially less pain.

[PeaceFrog]

massage therapy is great, but can become expensive. In between massages I use a foam roller, and it helps.

[sums]

regular deep tissue massage

[sums]

internal: anti-inflamatory diet and herbs.

[sums]

what al the massage guy said

[capt_morgan]

pushing through pain way past the point where i feel like i cant handle anymore seems to be working. instead of me being in pain 6 days a week...im only bothered by it 1 day a week. ive definitely turned a corner here

[capt_morgan]

without opiates


the humAN body is an amazing machine

[Eco]

Congrats, you must some willpower!

[capt_morgan]

if i didnt have willpower id be dead

[capt_morgan]

my natural state is total destruction....balance and harmony takes effort, when it shouldnt. i guess im a little busted that way

[Again and Again]

Perform better.com or .org or .net or something. Sorry I don't remember. Get a $7 foam roll and roll out on it every day. Works wonders. Feel good.

[PeaceFrog]

they're on sale, now... good deal

http://www.performbe...isplayErrorView

You can make one yourself with a piece of 4 inch PVC pipe, some foam, and duct tape. There's instructions on youtube. It really does help wring out your fascia

[KittyKindBud]

Before Bud got his new hips, he never hardly used any pain meds at all - We got a hot tub and that helped SO MUCH......

[hoagie]

pushing through pain way past the point where i feel like i cant handle anymore seems to be working. instead of me being in pain 6 days a week...im only bothered by it 1 day a week. ive definitely turned a corner here

What about those people wo hang themselves by hooks and swing around. They meditate and somehow do not feel pain. Same goes with fire-walkers.

Really sucks to hear you are in this situation Auggie. I have always found accupuncture to be a real help in relieving my chronic back pain whenever it becomes debilitating.

And hey, sometimes you just snap. Dont beat yourself up over it when it happens. Sounds excruciating, so I would understand.

[PeaceFrog]

firewalking is just a gimmick that sometimes can go wrong: http://www.wtvy.com/...-163362496.html

I'm not sure where I read it, but in order to walk across hot coals successfully, they actually flip the coals over to the cool side before they walk... it's still hot but it won't give you third degree burns.

[capt_morgan]

im still doing ok...my body is all busted up though...i still havent recovered from labor day weekend lol

[hoagie]

Well take it easy up at WT too bro. healing painfree viberinos

[CaliBella]

Pain meds and bentonite clay. .I have systematic lupus and after a long time of trying deep breathing, massage, ridiculously long fasts, natural remedies, yoga with no success, I've found; eating mostly vegan, drinking purified bentonite, non narcotic pain meds and enough sleep are the only thing that works. For acute flares, I of course have to take disease modifying drugs, but I get off of them within a week or two and I am sure it's because I eat a highly anti-inflammatory, gluten free diet.
Making sure you have no nutritional deficiencies and are getting enough sun and sleep is important too. Don't let he Dr.'s brush you off. Ask for vitamin and heavy metal testing. My illness started as food allergies, arthritis and chronic pain and progressed to freaking Lupus attacking my organs.

[CaliBella]

After reading more of your thread, it looks like your issues are auto-immune too? I would highly reccomend the food grade, filtered, liquid bentonite clay. harvard did a study on auto immune joint diseases and found polymers cured them by mopping up spilled DNA. None of this research was acted on as polymers would not be profitable to drug companies. Bentonite clay will also chelate and mop spilled dna.
If you've had a postive auto-anti-body or ANA/SSb etc tests,especially give the clay a try. Positive ANA is a proven reaction to spilled DNA by inflamed cells.
Also, if you have mercury fillings, get those out. I got all mine removed and it practically stopped my joint deterioration and it did actually stop my body from attacking my kidneys.

[TEO]

Wow, CaliBella what types of food allergies did/do you have?

[CaliBella]

I was getting a lot of false positives because Lupus is weird like that, so I am not 100 percent sure what I am actually allergic to (also got a false positive for syphilis ). That's why it's so hard for conventional medicine to treat the disease because it hides and masks its' self as other illnesses. I really think with all the aluminum spraying for false cloud cover, GMO round-up spraying, eating animals unsanitarily raised and slaughtered etc, we all have auto-immune activity and we're responding to toxins, rather than food allergies. I have so many friends who lead a healthy lifestyle, yet have fibromyalgia and other weird non-testable diseases. Newer studies are showing people with fibro have toxin overload. When i used to work, 20 percent of the kids in my class had gluten intolerance. I don't remember that as a kid. i truly think it's not gluten intolerance, but rather anti-bodies built up against toxins in GMO wheat. I eat really healthy, so I truly think i got lupus from living right near gmo farms in gmoville, central CA, especially since moving to a non-agricultural region has reduced my symptoms.
Sorry if that was more than you wanted to hear. I just want everyone to know how our government is poisoning us and that Monsanto will eventually lead our country into complete colapse due to increase health problems/ care costs.

[TEO]

Absolutely not more than I want to hear, thank you for sharing.

[CaliBella]

So....I am pain free now and don't have to take a single med anymore,not even ib profin! I even started long distance terrain running again! Still testing positive for auto-antibodies, but they are no longer high enough to classify me as having SLE/Lupus and not a single symptom left...and I am beter enough for us to be considered as an adoptive family now (my biggest motivator!)!

I am so thankful I did my own research and didn't leave things up to my Dr.'s! Please share this link and site with anyone you know of in poor health (he has free lectures on PBS, so you don;t have to join , just check your local pbs station for 'immunity solution' )!!!! If you have an Auto-immune disease you CAN'T have the gluten he allows.

Just a year ago, i thought my life was over..... now I got a second chance, and a rad, healthy body as a side-effect!!!! It's not easy, but it is a crap load easier than steroids, chemo and anti-depressants! Plus, the only side-effect is a lot of energy and looking younger!

I hope you are still reading this thread Capt_Morgan!

http://www.drfuhrman.../article17.aspx

[capt_morgan]

i am soo tired of being in this busted up meatsack of a body

[CaliBella]

Please consider trying 'Eat to Live' by Dr. Fuhrman. http://www.drfuhrman...ry.aspx?id=1037  I have attached my success story he posted on his website about my journey to prove you can heal yourself. 

I have beat every single disease my Dr.'s told me were chronic or terminal and have more vitality than when I was a teenager.  I was told a year ago i would wind up completley disabled, possibly on kidney dialysis and not live a long life. Now I am studying for grad school admission tests, off all my perscriptions and was discharged from my specialists because I am now 'normal and healthy'.  I miss drinking, smoking and pizza, but man, it's just not worth it. Life is way too beautiful to live it in pain!

Since I've been given this wonderful second chance, my new life mission is to help everyone I can live a pain free life. If you ever want to talk, or need some support, or advice, please message me and I will be happy to give you my email or FB and pass on the articles and research Dr Fuhrman sends me. 

I would buy the book eat to live. It is a 99 percent vegan diet and it will not be easy at first, but YOU CAN DO IT! You owe it to yourself. If you don't want to buy the book yet, message me and I will send you enough info to get you started. I don't know you, but I would like to be your friend. I have friends and eve strangers who are now on the plan after seeing my success, we formed a group and we can all take and continue this journey together . You can wait to go off your pills until the diet starts lowering your inflamation and need for them.

Much love to you my friend. Stay strong and remember, you can do anything, including healing yourself! You are an incredible being and your purpose here is to do wonderful things without being in pain. *Big big hugs*

i am soo tired of being in this busted up meatsack of a body

[CaliBella]

I just created a FB page so anyone who likes can join and change their life! Even if you aren't commited yet, please consider joining, so you have some support my friend!  https://www.facebook...779864/?fref=ts

[namaste]

 

I'm sorry your pain has not gone away as I see this thread has gone on for over a year.   Many of the suggestions are great, especially stretching because the muscles around a chronic painful area will shrink to protect the damaged site.  Short muscles =pain.  A good chiropractor will help you learn to stretch properly and will help you feel the subtle differences in position.  also....

 

 

This may sound a little out there, but energy healing has a lot of followers (including me) and EFT is one great, free and natural thing to try.  It's in the category of 'it can't hurt' so...I have fibromyalgia, screws and plates in my ankle fro a fracture, pretty severe arthritis in most joints, and when I can't partake in magical herb I EFT it.  Do a little research on your own, but this guy (the link I sent) is my fav.  EFT deals with the emotions behind the physicality of your problem.  

 

I sincerely hope this helps, pain is a bitch.  

 

namaste  xo