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#1 vic

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 06:09 PM

anyone gonna be in NYC for this?

(this is not a political thread so i'd appreciate if it stayed here in the family forum for better traffic)

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#2 TakeAStepBack

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 06:23 PM

No, I'll be in NYC though. Try not to poop on property while you're here, please. Thanks. Posted Image

#3 FellowTraveler

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 06:25 PM

with the calls for.....???

#4 TakeAStepBack

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 06:27 PM

They just want to shut shit down. There is no real aim in any of it other than anrachy.

#5 nikkiblue

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 06:28 PM

Whats the date?

#6 TakeAStepBack

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 06:30 PM

May Day.

#7 nikkiblue

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 06:31 PM

is it the 5th? or the 1st? I could google it so I wont look stupid.. but I dont feel like it. lol.

#8 TakeAStepBack

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 06:34 PM

May Day

#9 vic

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 06:43 PM

They just want to shut shit down. There is no real aim in any of it other than anrachy.


of all people i thought you would know the history of this

i don't know where you get the idea of anarchy out of a labor strike...you wanna call it socialist you might be a little closer to the mark, but not correct

http://en.wikipedia....al_Workers'_Day

#10 TakeAStepBack

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 07:14 PM

In many countries, the working classes sought to make May Day an official holiday, and their efforts largely succeeded. May Day has long been a focal point for demonstrations by various socialist, communist and anarchist groups. In some circles, bonfires are lit in commemoration of the Haymarket martyrs, usually at dawn.[6] May Day has been an important official holiday in Communist countries such as the People's Republic of China, Cuba and the former Soviet Union. May Day celebrations typically feature elaborate popular and military parades in these countries.



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#11 nikkiblue

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 07:18 PM

"May Day falls exactly half a year from November 1, "

I think the fact that this is a leap year, May Day should technically be May 2nd.

#12 PieDoh

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 07:27 PM

How could you not expect this to be a political argument. it's all about communism. and no I won't be there

#13 Joker

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 07:41 PM

Second Coming Shocker!
Karl Marx Returns to Earth Instead of Jesus!

by Susie Day

NEW YORK, NY -- Millennial Christians and godless communists alike were stunned when nineteenth-century economist and revolutionary Karl Marx suddenly returned from the dead about two hours ago to land, in bodily form, at the corner of Nassau and Wall Streets.

His appearance interrupted Occupy Wall Street protesters as they negotiated the preparations for an anticapitalist May 1 General Strike. Seeming irritable and out of sorts, Mr. Marx sat glowering astride a fiery white horse amid apocalyptic clouds of glory, as hordes of journalists and OWS activists waving cell phones crushed in to record the event.

"HA HA! You're undead!" laughed a cub reporter from The Wall Street Journal, pointing derisively at socialism's greatest sage. "Where's your dialectical materialism now, huh?"

"Shut up, kid," grumbled Mr. Marx, massaging a carbuncle on his left buttock.

"Karl Marx!" cried CNN's Anderson Cooper, thrusting a microphone at the stern, famously bearded visage, "now that you've obviously come back from some sort of Afterlife, don't you think it's silly to explain existence in terms of social class and the means of production? How about giving a little credit to the Man Upstairs?"

Karl Marx wrested the microphone from Mr. Cooper and declared to the multitudes, "Religion is still the opiate of the masses, you guys. In fact, Jesus is so hopped up on opiates, he can't even see straight. Furthermore, Jesus thinks you all suck."

The crowd gasped and shrank back. "Burn him!" screamed a bevy of middle-aged tourists, sporting green foam Statue-of-Liberty crowns and carrying multiple shopping bags from Century 21.

Unruffled, Mr. Marx continued, "Hey, I tried to give you people a break. I explained to Jesus that your bourgeois consumer fetishism was created by your alienating social conditions. So Jesus said, 'Fine, one bearded Jewish intellectual is as good as another -- you go down there and sort them out.' I said, 'Bite me.' Next thing I know, here I am. True story."

Marxist scholars express doubt that the mortal being who formulated the paradigms of dialectical and historical materialism could have triumphed over death itself. Dr. Harvey B. Papershredder, adjunct sociology professor at Sarah Lawrence College, represented the going academic consensus when he stated, "Because I have invited Marx into my heart as my personal savior, I believe he no longer exists. Conversely, I exist. So does my latest book on capitalist injustice, premised on the hard-hitting Marxian fact that, when oppressed workers die, they don't come back. So please buy my book because we only live once and I want to feel good about myself before we all perish miserably in some capitalist-induced nuclear and/or global warming disaster. It's also available on Nook and Kindle. The book, not the disaster."

Other leftists, less empirically grounded, are joyfully celebrating Mr. Marx's return, saying they look forward to living in a promised classless society at the end of history. Many, having prided themselves for years on living "politically correct" lives by eschewing fur and meat products, and demonstrating regularly against imperialist wars, have celebrated Marx's return with delirious blog entries, tweets, and pilgrimages to Lower Manhattan in the belief that the "End of History" has arrived, and the chosen will soon be raptured over to the Financial District to build a glorious "Worker's Paradise."

Meanwhile, at Union Square, devout progressives can purchase hand-lettered t-shirts sporting such slogans as "Better Dead AND Red" and "Prole-ier than Thou," along with political buttons emblazoned with the images of martyred radicals and political prisoners. Even the local chapter of the Jehovah's Witnesses has switched from distributing its signature magazine "Watchtower" to giving out free copies of Mao's "Little Red Book."

But the transcendent atmosphere of jubilation was marred in the last hour or so, when a rumor was tweeted that Mr. Marx is preparing to condemn the entire Revolutionary Workers' Labor Party to hell for all eternity for the sin of infighting.

"Serves them right," remarked Milo Kronstadt of the anarchist Party Against Workers' Parties Party. "Lousy bunch of middle-class Marxist-Leninist white liberal Stalinist so-called activists. They should all die and rot."

Another so-called activist from a more hierarchical tendency then pointed out the "lameness" of an anti-authoritarian "dude" who expects justice from the ultimate Authority on Marxism, and a general melee broke out. Fisticuffs finally abated about nine minutes ago when someone noticed that Mr. Marx was no longer to be seen.

Four minutes later, Mr. Marx was discovered at the pharmacy counter of the nearest Duane Reade, discussing the efficacy of Preparation H to treat his carbuncle. He reportedly confiscated and damaged the cell phone of the OWS politico in the act of tweeting a photo of Mr. Marx's first back-to-earth purchase. As of the last twelve seconds, Mr. Karl Marx remains inside the Duane Reade, refusing to come out.

Given the complex coordinates of time, space, and this exact dialectical moment in material History, no one -- as usual -- knows what will happen. It remains for each and every one of the 99 percent to keep watching the skies.

http://mrzine.monthl.../day240412.html

#14 TakeAStepBack

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 07:45 PM

LMFAO!

#15 Tabbooma

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 07:49 PM

Tabbooma was hoping to make it but not in the cards.. have some friends going down from ONH, should be a time ;)

#16 FYC (Find Your Cloud)

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 07:49 PM

It's looking like I will be there.
We should link up Vic.

#17 Tabbooma

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 07:50 PM

:bouncey:

It's looking like I will be there. We should link up Vic.



#18 gregoir

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 07:57 PM

How does not working help people?

#19 Lazy Lightning

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 07:59 PM

Whats the date?


That's true - who the hell knows when May Day is? :lol:

Beautiful poster design. A date would have helped out, but otherwise really nice design. :thumbup:

(can you tell I'm on some design gigs right now? all I can see is the design of things! :lol:)

Anyways, power to the people and all that. I'll likely be at work, but I work for our community, so it's all good. :)

#20 gregoir

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 08:02 PM

How could you not expect this to be a political argument. it's all about communism. and no I won't be there


Seriously :lol:

#21 Joker

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 08:02 PM

Be careful folks, OCCUPY is attempting to corrupt the spirit of the May Day marches and their plans for this event include upsetting and endangering the lives of millions of people in order to further their own agenda


May 1st Blockade Called For New York Bridges, Tunnels, and Ferries — Commuter Delays Expected



MAY 1: NEW YORK BLOCKADE ANNOUNCEMENT

NEW YORK – On May 1, 2012, autonomous direct action groups within Occupy Wall Street, as a part of the global mobilizations for general strike and economic non-compliance, will block one or more Manhattan-bound bridges or tunnels to protest the shameful opulence of the 1%. Working and unemployed people across this country have seen no improvement to their lives in spite of all of the chatter about a recovery from the Financial Crisis of 2008. We don’t care what Obama or Romney say because only working people —domestic laborers, rank and file union members, undocumented workers, restaurant, retail and chain-store workers— can solve today’s problems.

Last fall, when Occupy Wall Street blocked the Brooklyn Bridge for several hours, we were acting within a long line of protest in New York City that stretches back to the so-called Fiscal Crisis of 1975, which much like now, was a bank led assault against working people. In the summer of 1975, striking hospital employees, including doctors and nurses, blocked the Brooklyn Bridge. The bridge was even blocked by thousands of laid-off police, the very people who act as the guard dogs of the 1%. More recently, both the Brooklyn Bridge and the Holland Tunnel were shut down during protests of the shooting death of Sean Bell. But this May 1, we will create the biggest shut down the city of New York has ever seen.

We are announcing these blockades now as a fair warning to the rest of the working people of New York and New Jersey who are considering joining the strikes and mobilizations of the day: the city will be shut down, so enjoy the day without the 99%!






http://occupywallst....dges-tunnels-a/

#22 vic

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 08:04 PM

It's looking like I will be there. We should link up Vic.


definitely...i might be solo so i could use some company...my lady is a nanny so her work is pretty neccessary and prolly can't take off

i may be staying in brooklyn monday night so it should be easier to meet up somewhere around there...i'll im you my #

#23 FYC (Find Your Cloud)

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 08:06 PM

For the record, a lot of non-anarchist types such as condor and myself are involved with the May Day strike.

#24 vic

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 08:06 PM

How could you not expect this to be a political argument. it's all about communism. and no I won't be there



not looking for one here...just seeing who here is going

#25 Lazy Lightning

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 08:07 PM

How does not working help people?


The same way not buying your petrol for one 12-hour period will bring down the price of gasoline? :dunno: :lol:

Seriously, I think it's good people are standing up for what they believe in. I take actions every day towards the a similar cause, namely, that of supporting my local community. It's what I feel most passionately about. :)

#26 vic

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 08:07 PM

For the record, a lot of non-anarchist types such as condor and myself are involved with the May Day strike.


i am also not an anarchist :)

#27 Tabbooma

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 08:19 PM

:rolling: and what would that be... Trying to make change in this country... Joker we really need to sit down and have a beer and discuss this... ;)

Be careful folks, OCCUPY is attempting to corrupt the spirit of the May Day marches and their plans for this event include upsetting and endangering the lives of millions of people in order to further their own agenda [



#28 FellowTraveler

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 08:26 PM

:rolling: and what would that be... Trying to make change in this country... Joker we really need to sit down and have a beer and discuss this... ;)


id like to sign up for this ;-)

#29 Tabbooma

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 08:30 PM

Your in ;)

id like to sign up for this ;-)



#30 Joker

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 08:31 PM

:rolling: and what would that be... Trying to make change in this country... Joker we really need to sit down and have a beer and discuss this... ;)

I would love to.

I'm all for trying to change things but I don't believe blocking bridges and tunnels is the way to go about it. Emergency vehicles need to use those routes and blocking them could ultimately lead to injuries or deaths due to delayed response times.

I'm all for using the designated routes set up for the march as the city will be able to plan for it and have alternate routes available in case of emergencies.

#31 Deadshow Dan

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 08:35 PM

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#32 Deadshow Dan

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 08:36 PM

I'll be looking from above at the Ithaca stuff, hopefully with the window open

#33 FellowTraveler

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 08:38 PM

I would love to. I'm all for trying to change things but I don't believe blocking bridges and tunnels is the way to go about it. Emergency vehicles need to use those routes and blocking them could ultimately lead to injuries or deaths due to delayed response times. I'm all for using the designated routes set up for the march as the city will be able to plan for it and have alternate routes available in case of emergencies.


HEY !!! i dont see a bud light in your hand and your ass in a camping chair dammit

#34 Tabbooma

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 08:47 PM

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#35 Jwheelz

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 08:47 PM

I'm just wondering, in what situation does a fire truck or an ambulance travel between city boroughs or states in an emergency? And I don't mean situations like 9/11, I'm talking about everyday emergencies, I'm pretty sure if some kind of major disaster ever happened the protesters wouldn't be blocking the bridges...

edit: my bad, I just realized this is the thread you said you didn't want to have a political argument in, the question was just on my mind

#36 Julius

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 08:49 PM

I really like the idea of anarchy but all the anarchists I've met are violent asshole yahoos with half a brain.

#37 vic

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 08:51 PM

Kawak has pm :)

#38 vic

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 08:52 PM

I really like the idea of anarchy but all the anarchists I've met are violent asshole yahoos with half a brain.


This isn't about anarchy

#39 Joker

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 09:13 PM

Any closing of roadways and bridges will have an effect on traffic near those tie-ups, the longer they last the farther away from the source the traffic is clogged. When you've got houses burning or people needing assistance any delay at all can mean the difference between life and death.

God forbid it should happen but if something does happen that costs the life of someone, results in further harm to someone or causes a fire to burn longer and spread because of traffic delays, those causing that delay will bear at least some responsibility for it.

#40 MeOmYo

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 09:30 PM

one cannot live their life based on "what if", sorry but concern for traffic and it's "possible" affects are weaksauce.

if you believe in something, support it

#41 TakeAStepBack

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 09:32 PM

Werd. Supporting communist agenda is just not for me. Communism, and it's interim evolution, socialism, are epcot failures. Anarchy doesn't work either. So unless it's about getting back to our roots, I'm definitely not attending.

But if you could kindly keep my taxes down by not pooping all over the place and such, I would be grateful forever.

#42 Jwheelz

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 09:38 PM

Any closing of roadways and bridges will have an effect on traffic near those tie-ups, the longer they last the farther away from the source the traffic is clogged. When you've got houses burning or people needing assistance any delay at all can mean the difference between life and death. God forbid it should happen but if something does happen that costs the life of someone, results in further harm to someone or causes a fire to burn longer and spread because of traffic delays, those causing that delay will bear at least some responsibility for it.


You're right man, I forgot about the cascade effect that river crossings being closed has on the grid... I'm used to being out here in the sticks and don't think about these things

I do believe though that disrupting the city in this way is actually a good way to get the point across, but I sure as hell wouldn't be doing it myself because I'm not willing to go to jail..but that's just me

#43 Joker

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 09:59 PM

I think they could get their point across more effectively with a huge turnout and a safe, violence free protest rather than by interfering with/ inconveniencing everyone else and endangering lives. I believe that would also gain them much more support and respect from the rest of the 99%

#44 Lostsailr

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 10:48 PM

Really? Americans only notice if they loose convenience.

Convenience is, after all, the one major religion the majority of Americans believe in.

#45 Jwheelz

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 11:09 PM

in order to rock the boat... it's sort of necessary to... rock the boat

#46 Joker

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 11:21 PM

What good does rocking the boat do when the boat they're rocking is full of their own people?

Plus it's rather annoying to listen to the whining and bitching about them getting wet after they choose to rock it.

#47 vic

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 11:39 PM

well, it's happening anyway.

let public opinion speak by the turnout.

#48 Jwheelz

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 11:41 PM

I don't see it as whining and bitching, I see it as being outspoken to make sure it's clear to outsiders what's actually happening... plus I think "getting wet" should mean facing legal consequences anyone would face doing the same actions, but reasonable ones... I don't think it should include getting physically beaten... but that's a really complex issue.

As for being full of its own people, I think that's an unfortunate but necessary price of trying to enact some kind of change in a serious way. I'm pretty sure the people that participated in the student protests in the 1960s weren't necessarily happy (I'm sure there were some that were, but I'm speaking in general) about disrupting everyone's education for the process of what they were doing, but it takes a lot to get a point across, especially in today's world and with today's media. Protests are sometimes ugly things, but they need to be noticed to have any potential of accomplishing anything.

While this can obviously backfire and harm the cause that people are trying to promote, I don't think that eliminates the need to try.

#49 vic

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 11:50 PM

i like this guy.

#50 little frog

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 12:01 AM

Plus it's rather annoying to listen to the whining and bitching about them getting wet after they choose to rock it.


but you're listening .. in fact, it seems like it's all you can talk about :)