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#4101 gram-man

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 06:45 PM

What...ya don't think every person who reads this thread HASN'T heard the name Frank Viola over and over and over again with every article that's come out since R.A. got his 19th win?? ;)

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 06:46 PM

Trivia. (without using google).

Name the last pitcher to win 20 games in a season for the Mets?


I know its been a while... Was it David Cone?

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 06:46 PM

Trivia. (without using google).

Name the last pitcher to win 20 games in a season for the Mets?


Frank Viola

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 06:46 PM

What...ya don't think every person who reads this thread HASN'T heard the name Frank Viola over and over and over again with every article that's come out since R.A. got his 19th win?? ;)


Apparently I haven't. :blush:

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 06:47 PM

What...ya don't think every person who reads this thread HASN'T heard the name Frank Viola over and over and over again with every article that's come out since R.A. got his 19th win?? ;)


Oh have they? I stopped reading the articles / notes every morning sometime in mid august.

#4106 gram-man

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 06:48 PM

FAIL!!

Please turn in your Mets fan card before leaving the thread.

#4107 SunshineDrummer

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 06:52 PM

FAIL!!

Please turn in your Mets fan card before leaving the thread.


I had it narrowed down to Cone, Viola and Doc, but crossed Doc off the list because I knew that was too long ago. So I had a 50/50 shot, but got them reversed timeline-wise.

In my defense, that was when i was still in college so chances are good that I was either drunk or hanging lights in a theatre somewhere rather than floowing baseball too closely. :lol: And I'm keeping my fan card. So there!

The stat I kept hearing over & over is that Dickey is the first knuckleballer in 32 years to hit 20 wins.

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 07:06 PM

FAIL!!

Please turn in your Mets fan card before leaving the thread.


I told you. The Mets have become the equivalent of the New York Knicks of the mid 2000's in my mind.

I do read the sunday articles.

The funniest part is you guys almost had me on board 100% at some point this season. This is partly why I am Eeyore raining on the parade.

I blame this thread and all the contributors. :lol:

But you are correct.


I had it narrowed down to Cone, Viola and Doc, but crossed Doc off the list because I knew that was too long ago. So I had a 50/50 shot, but got them reversed timeline-wise.

In my defense, that was when i was still in college so chances are good that I was either drunk or hanging lights in a theatre somewhere rather than floowing baseball too closely. :lol: And I'm keeping my fan card. So there!

The stat I kept hearing over & over is that Dickey is the first knuckleballer in 32 years to hit 20 wins.


The was Joe Neikro in 1980.

And I am on the same boat here. I missed most of the early 1990's being in school, working the summers in Wildwood and weekends during the school year and of course drinking too much.

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Posted 02 October 2012 - 02:01 PM

Ike Davis trade bait rumors: Red Sox scouts seen in Miami last night.

http://www.cbssports...-first-baseman-

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Posted 02 October 2012 - 02:07 PM

Are they giving us Elsbury? That is the only player I want from their current roster. Ok pedroia too.

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Posted 02 October 2012 - 03:11 PM

Maybe they'll throw Bobby V. in for free.

#4112 gram-man

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Posted 02 October 2012 - 03:35 PM

21 for Dickey tonight!! The only reason left to watch them this season!

#4113 jg

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Posted 02 October 2012 - 03:43 PM

Are they giving us Elsbury? That is the only player I want from their current roster.


You don't want Ellsbury unless you can sign him. He's a Boras client and a free agent at the end of the 2013 season.

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Posted 02 October 2012 - 03:49 PM

You don't want Ellsbury unless you can sign him. He's a Boras client and a free agent at the end of the 2013 season.


But when healthy he is easily the most talented every day player on the Red Sox. Am I wrong with this? Popi is too old, and Pedroia is more of a hustle effort guy.

I agree though, he is prolly to expensive an option for the Mets.

#4115 jg

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Posted 02 October 2012 - 04:05 PM

But when healthy he is easily the most talented every day player on the Red Sox. Am I wrong with this? Popi is too old, and Pedroia is more of a hustle effort guy.

I agree though, he is prolly to expensive an option for the Mets.


You don't want to give up a Super 2 (25 year old) for a 28 yr old free agent you can't sign if you're the Mets and still building.
You want Xander Bogaerts a 19 SS with power or Jackie Bradley, Jr. a 22 year old center fielder. Although you're not getting Bogaerts.

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Posted 02 October 2012 - 04:59 PM

You don't want to give up a Super 2 (25 year old) for a 28 yr old free agent you can't sign if you're the Mets and still building.
You want Xander Bogaerts a 19 SS with power or Jackie Bradley, Jr. a 22 year old center fielder. Although you're not getting Bogaerts.


Who said anything about our pitching prospects.

We were talking about starting discussions with Ike Davis, and Boston scouts were at the game last night scouting the Mets.

#4117 jg

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Posted 02 October 2012 - 05:20 PM

Who said anything about our pitching prospects.


Sigh ... Only you did Andy.

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Posted 02 October 2012 - 06:15 PM

You don't want to give up a Super 2 (25 year old) for a 28 yr old free agent you can't sign if you're the Mets and still building.
You want Xander Bogaerts a 19 SS with power or Jackie Bradley, Jr. a 22 year old center fielder. Although you're not getting Bogaerts.


I thought Super 2 meant Harvey and Wheeler.

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Posted 02 October 2012 - 07:25 PM

Who is the AL MVP?

Trout or Cabrera?

You know who I vote for? My man crush.


Active players with 40 homers, 200 hits in a single season
Alex Rodriguez: 1998, 2001
Miguel Cabrera: 2012
Adrian Beltre: 2004
Albert Pujols: 2003
Todd Helton: 2000

#4120 jg

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 01:11 PM

Who is the AL MVP? Trout or Cabrera? You know who I vote for? My man crush. Active players with 40 homers, 200 hits in a single season Alex Rodriguez: 1998, 2001 Miguel Cabrera: 2012 Adrian Beltre: 2004 Albert Pujols: 2003 Todd Helton: 2000


If Cabrera gets the Triple Crown you have to give it to him.
btw this could be the first Triple Crown winner since 1967. How is it not bigger news?

#4121 concert andy

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 01:16 PM

I agree, but they are saying it is old way of thinking versus new way of thinking WAR, metrics, defense.

Think they lucked out with the Angels missing the playoffs.

I think the angels still finish 3rd without Trout, and there is no way the Tigers win without Miggy.

#4122 jg

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 01:24 PM

I agree, but they are saying it is old way of thinking versus new way of thinking WAR, metrics, defense.

Think they lucked out with the Angels missing the playoffs.

I think the angels still finish 3rd without Trout, and there is no way the Tigers win without Miggy.


But the Tigers only have 87 wins to the Angels 89 (The Rays have 89 as well). So the Tigers are actually worse than two teams that will miss the playoffs and they are in the worst division in the AL.
I'm not sure that the record should be a factor...
Still, its a very weird season for the Angels with Weaver and Trout in the mix for the hardware (plus good seasons from Pujols and Trumbo) and the Angles so far back...

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 01:32 PM

But the Tigers only have 87 wins to the Angels 89 (The Rays have 89 as well). So the Tigers are actually worse than two teams that will miss the playoffs and they are in the worst division in the AL.
I'm not sure that the record should be a factor...
Still, its a very weird season for the Angels with Weaver and Trout in the mix for the hardware (plus good seasons from Pujols and Trumbo) and the Angles so far back...


Trumbo slumped most of the second half. Weaver was awesome, Trout has a bright future.

I do not think Scoscia can manage the big time player, but better with a group of youngens or decent veterans. See the team he won with, to this squad. This season's squad has superior talent to that team.

Why I think he would be good fit for the Mets.

...


Side note, how about Dickey tearing his abdominal in April in a cold start in Philly, but still went on to pitch a couple of 1 hitters and win 20 games.

Sounds Torn abdominal sounds like a hernia. Yes no? I had a hernia operation and it was basically a tear in the lining of my abdominal area. Basically the thing that holds your intestines in place.

#4124 SunshineDrummer

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 10:53 PM

And the season's over!

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But at least it ended with a "W". :) Seeya next year!!

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 11:47 PM

Put it in the books.

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 02:45 PM

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 05:47 PM

NY Mets' Lucas Duda breaks right wrist moving furniture in his apartment

Read more: http://www.nydailyne...8#ixzz2BYnCoDg8

A tough year got even more difficult for Lucas Duda last month when the Mets outfielder broke his right wrist while moving furniture in his Southern California apartment.

How much of a punchline this becomes for Duda, who perhaps enters the pantheon of oddball sports injuries, may depend on how he fares in rehab from surgery to repair the fracture and on his success next season, a big one in his career.

The Mets expect Duda to be ready for spring training after he had surgery Monday at the Hospital for Special Surgery in Manhattan. The operation was performed by Dr. Andrew Weiland, the Mets’ hand specialist, and Duda was set to be released from the hospital on Tuesday.

Duda, who will be 27 in February, was a breakout performer in 2011, but sagged last season and even got sent to the minors. In 121 games with the Mets, he batted .239 with a .329 on-base percentage and .389 slugging percentage, well off his previous numbers. He also had 15 homers and 57 RBI, but was a disappointment after he had a .957 OPS in the second half of ’11.

It's unclear how or if Duda’s injury will affect the Mets’ plans. Duda could fall into any of the following categories: trade bait, starter at first if Ike Davis is dealt, starter in the outfield or part of an outfield platoon.

Rehab from a broken wrist could affect Duda’s trade value this winter, although the prognosis for recovery from wrist fractures is generally good, according to Dr. Michael R. Hausman, an orthopedic surgeon and the Chief of Hand and Elbow Surgery at The Mount Sinai School of Medicine.

“He’s young and he’s healthy, and the quality of the bone should be good, so if the surgery went well, I’d think next spring is definitely reasonable,” said Hausman, who has not treated Duda.

But, Hausman noted, the prognosis changes if the fracture extended into the joint or disrupted the ligaments or cartilage in the wrist. The Mets did not go into detail on the injury in their release announcing Duda’s surgery.

#4128 gram-man

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 06:03 PM

You come here to post this, but mention nothing about R.A winning the NL player pick for Oustanding Pitcher?? Really??


:funny1:

#4129 SunshineDrummer

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 06:05 PM

Are you new here? Andy only posts the bad news. :lol:

#4130 gram-man

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 06:11 PM

Oh I know...just wouldn't be me if I didn't bust his stones a bit :lol:

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 06:16 PM

Leave Eeyore alone! :cry1:

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 06:52 PM

Jason Bay and the New York Mets today announced a negotiated early expiration of his contract.


https://twitter.com/...250815180771328

Na na na na,
Na na na na,
Hey, Bay,
GOODBYE!

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 07:02 PM

You come here to post this, but mention nothing about R.A winning the NL player pick for Oustanding Pitcher?? Really??


:funny1:


I have never even heard of the most outstanding pitcher award. I see the story now, but even if he does win the Cy Young how does that help next season? Word is the Mets are quietly discussing trading Dickey since they have pitching depth in the minors.



Not my fault the only news reported on the Mets is bad.

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 07:03 PM

https://twitter.com/...250815180771328

Na na na na,
Na na na na,
Hey, Bay,
GOODBYE!


confirmed.

http://newyork.mets....pr_nym&c_id=nym

#4135 SunshineDrummer

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 07:08 PM

I have never even heard of the most outstanding pitcher award. I see the story now, but even if he does win the Cy Young how does that help next season? Word is the Mets are quietly discussing trading Dickey since they have pitching depth in the minors.



Not my fault the only news reported on the Mets is bad.


The exercised his option and Wright's. As far as I know, neither are going anywhere.

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 07:18 PM

The exercised his option and Wright's. As far as I know, neither are going anywhere.


I have heard they are at least willing to listen to offers. Sources.
http://aol.sportingn...xtension-option

http://www.nydailyne...ticle-1.1196715



I have not heard anything about Wright being traded, but they may have to do so if they do not come to long term agreement with him.

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 07:22 PM

I have heard they are at least willing to listen to offers. Sources.
http://aol.sportingn...xtension-option

http://www.nydailyne...ticle-1.1196715



I have not heard anything about Wright being traded, but they may have to do so if they do not come to long term agreement with him.


Guess we'll wait & see. I can't link to my sources, but they are reliable.

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 07:35 PM

Guess we'll wait & see. I can't link to my sources, but they are reliable.


NY Daily News and Sporting News.

I would say so.

#4139 gram-man

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 07:51 PM

Sunshinedrummer has better sources than them ;)

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 07:59 PM

NY Daily News and Sporting News.

I would say so.


Take anything your read in the NYDN Sports section with a grain of salt. At one point or another they've had the entire team on the trading block. The reporters need to write about something.

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 01:54 AM

Eric Karabal predictions.

About Oakland...
Sorry,Jemile Weeks, good luck after you're traded to the Mets.

New York Mets: New center fielder B.J. Upton registers his first 30/30 season, though he hits .240 in the process. Ike Davis is traded to make room at first base for Lucas Duda, who bounces back from a broken wrist to hit 24 home runs.


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Posted 09 November 2012 - 11:47 AM

Ike is a far better 1st baseman than Duda. Ike gave us that kind of home run production at first base with a gimpy first 2 months. I don't know if we'll ever see Duda have that kind of output. I'd rather keep the what we know than hope someone else might be able to do it.

#4143 jg

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 01:06 AM

Michael Salfino @MichaelSalfino

Source who would DEF know tells me Wilpon/Mets are broke, can't extend R.A. or Wright and have maybe two years left before they lose team.

Michael Salfino @MichaelSalfino

And Mets lack of cash, I'm told, is the reason they deferred Bay. More than a baseball decision, they just pass that along to next owner.

Michael Salfino @MichaelSalfino

And you all know I don't pull that source thing like, ever. So trust me on this.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 02:59 PM

I googled "Wilpon Broke" and got loads of blog stories about this, but no actual media outlet, yet.

Google search.
http://www.google.co...iw=1280&bih=909


Blogs who mostly reference JG's reference.

http://www.amazinave...ithin-two-years

http://realdirtymets...nover-imminent/

http://metsmerizedon...roke-rumor.html

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 03:23 AM

I wonder how Reyes is gonna like the monetary conversion rate up in Toronto.

Note to self: NEVER sign a long term contract with Miami. :lol:

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 03:25 AM

Heh. Fire sale.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 03:32 AM

I wonder how Reyes is gonna like the monetary conversion rate up in Toronto.

Note to self: NEVER sign a long term contract with Miami. :lol:



Why not? Money is guaranteed. Just do not buy if you plan on playing in Miami.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 12:10 AM

CY DICKEY!

:ura1:

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 01:35 AM




R.A. Dickey wins Cy Young, knuckleballer is first NY Mets pitcher to win award since Doc Gooden in 1985



R.A. Dickey’s incredible 2012 season, where he became the first Met to win 20 games since 1990, was capped Wednesday night when he named the National League Cy Young award winner.
"Man, I'm kind of speechless. It's a real honor," Dickey said after earning the award. The 38-year-old received 27 of the 32 first-place votes and five second-place votes to finish with 209 points.
Dickey went 20-6 with a 2.73 ERA. He is the first Met to win the award since Doc Gooden in 1985. He also becomes only the third Met to take it. Tom Seaver took the Cy Young in 1969, 1973 and 1975.

Dickey Dickey edged out the 2011 winner Clayton Kershaw (96 points) of the Dodgers and Gio Gonzalez (93) of the Nationals, receiving 209 points, including 27 first place votes. He finished tied for second in the majors with 20 wins, led the NL in strikeouts (230) and was second in the NL in ERA (2.73). Dickey recorded 27 quality starts in 2012 to lead the majors and became the sixth 20-game winner in franchise history.

He also led the National League in innings pitched (233.2), shutouts (three) and complete games (five). Named to his first All-Star team in 2012, Dickey rewrote the Mets record books throwing 32-2/3 consecutive scoreless innings from May 22-June 13. He became the first NL pitcher since 1944 to toss back-to-back one-hitters when he one-hit the Rays on June 13 and the Orioles on June 18.

“I want to thank the BBWAA for this prestigious award,” said Dickey, who became the first knuckleballer to win the Cy Young Award. “I owe so much to my teammates for their support during the year, especially Josh Thole and Mike Nickeas, who did such a great job behind the plate all season. I’d like to thank the fans. They stood behind me every time I took the mound. I wouldn’t have won this award without them. To have my name linked to Tom Seaver and Dwight Gooden is quite humbling.”

“My hat’s off to Mr. Dickey," said Seaver. "I watched one of his outings when I was in town and I was amazed by his control. I was always looking for new ammunition to bring to the mound so I attempted the knuckleball. It’s a very difficult pitch to throw and needless to say, I never mastered it. I congratulate him on his tenacity not only to succeed against all odds but to excel and achieve this very high honor. I look forward to congratulating him personally.”

“I saw R.A. pitch at least 10 times this year," Gooden said. "I’m really amazed how he was able to remake his career. I never even thought about throwing a knuckleball. To win the Cy Young Award at his age is more incredible than when I won at age 20.”

“This is fitting recognition for a remarkable season,” said Mets General Manager Sandy Alderson. “We are very proud of R.A. and what he achieved in 2012.”

“It was an honor to work with R.A. throughout the year and have a front-row seat to his historic season,” said Mets Manager Terry Collins. “R.A. is a great teammate, fierce competitor and even a better human being. No one deserves this award more than him.”
“All of us here at the Mets congratulate R.A. on winning the Cy Young Award,” said Mets COO Jeff Wilpon. “R.A.’s tremendous accomplishments this season were a thrill for everyone in the organization and our fans. This recognition is a tribute to his hard work and determination.



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Posted 28 November 2012 - 04:15 PM

So, do we sign David to a 7 year deal? He will be 37 by then?

Sounds like he wants the years and the money. Saying he was not happy with the 6 year 100 million dollar offer, which has now been updated to almost 6 for 120.

I am ok with giving it, but just know he will decline 35, 36 and 37, prolly.

I am also Sure the Wilpon's will not FRONT LOAD his contract. I wish the Mets would do this.

For example when they signed Santana to 137.5 for 6 years (avg 22.92 a year). If they would have paid him like 30 million in his first year, when they were in love with him. The rest of the deal can slowly have salary decline. 30, 25, 25, 25, 17, 16.5 = 137.5. By the end his number is reasonable enough to hopefully move if he regresses like Santana has. It is a built in way to protect yourself from spending too much down the line.

The counter this I have gotten from Baseball people is that teams like to back load contracts because they do not have the extra money on hand to spend like that.

For example, Jason Bay. They deferred some of his money. Not sure of the details of this, but looks like he will be on the payroll for a bit.