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#4051 SunshineDrummer

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 02:53 AM

Can we keep Kelly Shoppach? Please? He made Bobby Parnell look like a legit closer against the AwPhuls and comes up huge against the Marlins...


Now that Omar's not here to give away all our good players for re-treads, it might happen!!

#4052 In A Silent Way

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 06:39 PM

The league doesn't provide socks for fall ball, so Noah is repping hard.

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#4053 James420

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 07:25 PM

Is Ike Davis really going to finish with 30 HRs?

Can Dickey win the Cy Young?

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 07:27 PM

Early shower for Wainwright.

Prolly 30 homers for Ike. No Cy Young for Dickey. MLB is rigged against los Mets.

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 07:52 PM

Is Ike Davis really going to finish with 30 HRs?

Can Dickey win the Cy Young?


Yes and Yes.

Dickey is the front runner. Ceuto is #2 and he lost his last start. Although Chapman is the dark horse. May be them to will steal each others votes being on the same team, and help Dickey.

#4056 In A Silent Way

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 01:51 PM

:gah:



#4057 concert andy

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 04:16 PM

My thoughts on the season.

Dickey had a nice season. 4 starts left, and neck and neck with Gio for Cy Young.

Ike has come around, but those first two months were brutal.

What happened to David Wright the last month or so?

Either keep David Murphy or Tejada, as they have the same bat, with no power. One has to go.

Jason Bay is still awful.

I still think Pelfrey will want a new start elsewhere after he turns down arbitration.

We need an upgrade at Catcher, all three outfield spots, 2b or SS, bull pen and closer.

I still think 2015 is a realistic timeline for having a real chance to win the world series. Wake me then.

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 02:52 AM

Also, do they only have 4 home wins for the entire second half? That is almost two months now.

And now the Phillies are creeping back into contention 3 game back.

Awful.

#4059 In A Silent Way

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Posted 17 September 2012 - 01:56 PM

:gah:

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#4060 concert andy

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Posted 17 September 2012 - 01:59 PM

This paper airplane has more power than I do.

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 01:04 PM

Another Pathetic move by ownership. I heard to keep the Mets in Buffalo would have cost money, and anything close to the Mets would have cost about 20 million dollars over the course of any agreement.


Now going down to AAA, is pretty decent. I bet players will want to do rehabs in Vegas.



Mets to Triple-A Vegas a done deal

http://espn.go.com/b...gas-a-done-deal

The Mets and the Pacific Coast League's Las Vegas 51s officially are partners for the next two years.

The Triple-A club and the Mets have reached a player-development agreement.

The Mets had been affiliated with Buffalo the past four seasons in the International League. Buffalo prioritized winning, whereas the Mets wanted more of a balance between wins and losses and player development, a Mets official said. Still, it was Buffalo's call to part ways.

Toronto, which formerly called Las Vegas home, will take over in Buffalo.

Mets farmhands played Triple-A ball in Tidewater/Norfolk, Va., from 1969 to 2006, then New Orleans in 2007 and '08, followed by Buffalo the past four seasons.

In an unrelated development, Triple-A pitching coach Mark Brewer will not be retained, the Star-Ledger reported.

#4062 In A Silent Way

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 01:23 PM

MLB and the AAA affiliates renew their contracts every two years. Buffalo wanted to ditch the Mets, and no team wanted Las Vegas. The dorky girl and boy went to the dance together by default.

#4063 concert andy

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 01:38 PM

MLB and the AAA affiliates renew their contracts every two years. Buffalo wanted to ditch the Mets, and no team wanted Las Vegas. The dorky girl and boy went to the dance together by default.


Do not fool yourself. Vegas was the cheapest option. and it is 2500 miles away from NYC.

This move was based on CASH. Nothing else.

Next time we need an emergency starter there will be no way they could get someone in time to call up, and whomever it is they call may have jet lag on top of that.

#4064 In A Silent Way

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 02:17 PM

It's going to suck for the taxi squad.

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 01:22 AM

Miguel Cabrera's Triple Crown chase


http://espn.go.com/m...ng-triple-crown

1st .333
2nd 40 (leader 42 josh hamilton and he has a nagging injury)
1st 129 (obp .397, Slg .611)

#4066 In A Silent Way

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 02:44 AM

:gah:

#4067 concert andy

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 02:33 PM

:gah:


Really? :gah: ????


Are we still watching? Or better yet, we still care?

This season has been over since August 1st.

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 06:25 PM

KEITH HERNANDEZ TO SHAVE HIS MUSTACHE!!! :eek: :eek:

Keith Hernandez's mustache, which in 2007 was voted the American Mustache Institute's greatest sports mustache of all time and earlier the same year won Newsday's "Mustache Madness" contest, will be shaved off before the Mets' final home game Sept. 27.



The event, open to the public and scheduled for approximately 11:45 a.m. in the plaza outside Citi Field, will be sponsored by Schick Hydro, with proceeds benefiting the Jacqueline Hernandez Adult Day Center in Brooklyn's Cobble Hill. It is named for Hernandez's mother.


The SNY analyst has let his mustache go gray this season after the expiration of a promotional relationship with Just For Men, a hair coloring product.

He had been thinking about shaving it altogether and decided to make the event public when advised it could raise money for the center.
SNY plans to show highlights during that afternoon's Mets game.

#4069 In A Silent Way

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 06:41 PM

So it's come to this?

#4070 In A Silent Way

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 03:41 PM

Live stream of Keith shaving his mustache.

http://web.sny.tv/me...536544&c_id=sny

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 04:41 PM

fresh #1:

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Dickey gets 20 and the Cy Young.

we get "wait 'til next year."

i've converted to Premier League mode. catch this thread in April.

#4072 In A Silent Way

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 04:45 PM

:cry1:

Hot Stove League, breh.

#4073 concert andy

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 05:00 PM

fresh #1:

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Dickey gets 20 and the Cy Young.

we get "wait 'til next year."

i've converted to Premier League mode. catch this thread in April.


Is this what it has come too?

:cry1:

Hot Stove League, breh.


The mets will not be involved in the Hot Stove league.

The mets will be lucky to be competitive next year.

#4074 gram-man

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 05:11 PM

That's wha I like bout ya Andy. Your positive outlook on things.


:D

#4075 concert andy

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 05:37 PM

The funny thing is I am a very positive person. My cup is usually over flowing.

For example I am on board with the Jets. While I do not expect them to win the super bowl, I am on board for the ride.

Want to know how I have become so jaded?

The New york Knicks. 10+ years of not caring has trained me to see the current Mets for what they are.

I see the Mets going down the Knicks road.

#4076 concert andy

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 07:16 PM

If they hold on today Dickey will get his 20th and also have accounted for 27.8% (20/72) of the Mets wins for the season.

in comparison, Gio would have accounted for 21.2% (20/94) of Nat wins.

#4077 SunshineDrummer

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 07:42 PM

Its weird seeing Keith with no 'stache.

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 07:58 PM

PIITB!

Congratulations to R.A. Dickey!

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#4079 SunshineDrummer

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 07:59 PM

Congrats R.A.!!! :clapping:

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 08:15 PM

:clapping: CONGRATZ R.A!!!!! :clapping:



I HATE YOU JOHN RAUCH!!! :joker:

#4081 SunshineDrummer

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 08:19 PM

At least Parnell kept his shit together this time.

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 03:20 AM

YAY FOR R.A. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :bouncey:

#4083 In A Silent Way

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 11:21 AM

And now the season is over. :cheesy:

#4084 SunshineDrummer

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 02:40 PM

And now the season is over. :cheesy:


Not just yet.... he'll be going for #21 early next week.

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 02:59 PM

Not just yet.... he'll be going for #21 early next week.


20 is the magic number. 21 is nice, but who cares?

The season has been over since the all star break.

Sorry for being so negative this season, but my negativity was matched by the play on the field which I expected for this season.

With all that said, and the way the season has played out...

I think TC has to go. I am not ok with re upping him for one more year so he is not a lame duck.

I will not be upset if he does come back but I do not think TC is a winning manager.

I say fire TC, and bring in Scioscia.

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 03:02 PM

Duda to first base; Davis as trade bait.

Discuss.

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 03:27 PM

Trade Duda, keep Davis.

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 03:29 PM

Duda to first base; Davis as trade bait.

Discuss.


I do not like this.

I think Ike will be ok at first. Took him two months to get back into form after missing most of last season.

I do not like Duda enough. I think he is a 4th outfielder and back up 1st baseman. Good utility player at best.

Thoughts on TC coming back?

#4089 jme

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 03:39 PM

next year is going to be just as bad, if not worse. no spending on the outfield, no spending on the catcher, but we add some more young pitching.

I feel no different in Sept 2012 than I did in Spet 2011. another year or two of this, and then, MAYBE they start to invest in on field talent.

hang tight mets' fans. :beer:

#4090 SunshineDrummer

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 04:02 PM

20 is the magic number. 21 is nice, but who cares?


I do. I've been a Dickey fan since he came on board and I''d love to see him finish the season with a W.

Sorry for being so negative this season, but my negativity was matched by the play on the field which I expected for this season.


If this is what you expected, then why have you been acting like Eeyore the whole season? I don't think any of us expected anything more. To be fair, I was thrilled with the start the Mets made, and not really surprised when things petered out after the All Star Break. I always hope for it, but I knew this wasn't going to be a winning season.

Thoughts on TC coming back?


Fine with me. I like Terry and I'm sick of the managers' revolving door.

#4091 In A Silent Way

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 04:37 PM

Fine with me. I like Terry and I'm sick of the managers' revolving door.


He managed good; they played lousy.

Am I alone in thinking being a Mets fan is a disease?

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 04:42 PM

Am I alone in thinking being a Mets fan is a disease?


no, but it's seasonal, and mostly cured with beer from April to October.

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 04:47 PM

no, but it's seasonal, and mostly cured with beer from April to October.


Ticki-tocki ticki-tocki LET'S GO METS!

#4094 SunshineDrummer

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 05:06 PM

He managed good; they played lousy.


Exactly.

I love how the prevailing wisdom is always "The team's playing like shit. Let's fire the guy who's not on the field."

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 05:40 PM

Exactly.

I love how the prevailing wisdom is always "The team's playing like shit. Let's fire the guy who's not on the field."



Welcome to the big leagues...

While you are correct, the team can not usually fire it's best players who did not live up to their contract.

I.E., Jason Bay.

His contract is guaranteed.

What usually happens is management will think may be a different voice or approach can help revive our investment in this player, cause the current guy is not getting the job done.


And what do you call a revolving door?

The last 4 managers have been around on average for 3 years. Only Willie had a winning record. Bobby V was hear 6 years, and he had a winning record.
17 Art Howe 20032004 137 186 .424 — — — — [25] 18 Willie Randolph 20052008 302 253 .544 1 1 1 0 [26] 19 Jerry Manuel 20082010 204 213 .489 — — — — [27] 20 Terry Collins 2011–present 101 105 .490 — — — — [28]


Seeing Money Ball and Art Howe's attitude portrayed in the movie, of this is my team and I will manage it how I see fit, and not play nicely with Billy Beane. It just reminded me of how bad Art was when he was the Mets Manager.

My point is if you aren't getting the job done, time to move on.

While TC did ok managing this club, shouldn't he be responsible for how bad they played in the second half?

I mean at one point they were 4-25 at home in the second half and The Nats and Braves both had 5 wins at Citifield in the second half alone.

I think TC has to take some blame for the poor play.


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PS. Remember this off season moves will be based on $$$$. See already the move to Vegas for the AAA affiliate.

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 05:54 PM

Will the Sandy go after any of the following pitchers this winter? I still think Pelfrey decides to start new elsewhere.

Edwin Jackson, Ryan Dempster, Shaun Marcum, Francisco Liriano, Anibal Sanchez, Brandon McCarthy, Jake Peavy, and Dan Haren

I like all of them except Liriano.

#4097 SunshineDrummer

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 06:11 PM

My point is if you aren't getting the job done, time to move on.


I agree. but i call bullshit on the way managers get treated when a team hits the skids as if they're the only ones with any accountability. Shit happens, teams hit slumps even in the big leagues. Everyone's responsible. The manager doesn't go out there & swing that bat, throw that pich or catch that fly ball for you, that's on the players.

I think TC has to take some blame for the poor play.


Some, but not all. I think the players should be shouldering a healthy amount of the blame since they're the ones out on the filed, you know... playing. (or whatever they're calling it these days)

I'd prefer Collins stick around, I like him. Just one fan's opinion. Though I did find myself playing "what if the Mets had brough back Davey Johnson?" more than once this season.

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 06:19 PM

I agree. but i call bullshit on the way managers get treated when a team hits the skids as if they're the only ones with any accountability. Shit happens, teams hit slumps even in the big leagues. Everyone's responsible. The manager doesn't go out there & swing that bat, throw that pich or catch that fly ball for you, that's on the players.



Some, but not all. I think the players should be shouldering a healthy amount of the blame since they're the ones out on the filed, you know... playing. (or whatever they're calling it these days)

I'd prefer Collins stick around, I like him. Just one fan's opinion. Though I did find myself playing "what if the Mets had brough back Davey Johnson?" more than once this season.



Like I said, I would not be upset if TC comes back. I just think they have been SO BAD the last two seasons.

2011
46-45 - At the all star break

31-40 - After break

2012
46-40 - At the all star break

26-44 - After break (AWFUL)

Bottom Line for me.
I think TC has to go because this team may have quit on him.



PS. Notice I changed my Avatar to Eeyore. ha!

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 06:28 PM

Trivia. (without using google).

Name the last pitcher to win 20 games in a season for the Mets?

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 06:43 PM

PS. Notice I changed my Avatar to Eeyore. ha!


I did notice. We just need to photoshop a little Mets cap on him. ;)

As far a TC staying or going, my preference is that he stay. I do think he's a good manager and better suited to the team than Willie, Art or Jerry (though I did like Jerry as a manager, just not with the Mets).

Yes, they've been bad the past 2 years. Very, very bad. I don't know if they quit on Terry (I tend to not think so) or if its because the black cloud that seems to have enveloped the whole organization is rubbing off on everyone involved. I don't think anyone knows for sure, least of all us fans since we're not privy to the inner workings.

I'm just gonna do what I've done for the past several season, hope that next year will be a damn sight better. I'll be back in April, cheering my team on.