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#1 TakeAStepBack

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 06:01 PM



:huh:

"Fair share": [x]
"greater good": [x]


OK, but "global minium tax"? :huh: :undecided:

WTF does that even mean?

#2 TakeAStepBack

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 06:05 PM

And what he even talking about at all? A balanced budget? That unicorn from the federalis is hasn't occured in quite some time. It's always the balance the budget in 10 years route. In other words, we don't plan to do it in our elected term. What we will do is use it as a talking point every year and do nothign about it.

#3 PeaceFrog

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 06:22 PM

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#4 seany

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 06:25 PM

Do you ever think that your paranoia over this stuff might be just that? I'm not saying it isn't. It's all smoke and mirrors. But get a healthy economy and housing market again and most of this concern disappears. at least until the next downturn. I don't know - personally, I can't freak out over this because I doubt that we ever muster enough force to change the "powers that be." That day will come when it all comes crashing down and we have our next revolution, and there's no way of knowing how well that will work out either. :dunno:

#5 TakeAStepBack

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 06:37 PM

Paranoid? No, not really.

He did say race to the bottom in there, there is that. I wouldn't say you should freak out at all. I am just trying to understand WTF they're talking about with a minimum global tax.

But get a healthy economy and housing market again and most of this concern disappears. at least until the next downturn.

I'm not going to disagree, but i think we've run out of booms. The federal government can not spend their way into a healthy economy. The last bubble is being built right now.



smoke and mirrors'd.

#6 TakeAStepBack

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 06:41 PM


Emanuel Cleaver: Budget's 'a nervous breakdown on paper'



Rep. Emanuel Cleaver (D-Mo.), the chairman of the Congressional Black Caucus, warned Monday that the federal government should be wary of slashing spending too drastically as he called President Barack Obama’s expected budget proposal a “nervous breakdown on paper.”

“This budget is a nervous breakdown on paper,” Cleaver said on CNN


While the president has put together a plan that addresses important issues such as education and job training, the Missouri congressman cautioned, “We are still in a recession. We’re still struggling. Unemployment is still too high in every major city in the country. People are struggling.”

Cleaver suggested that “for the federal government to turn the spigot off completely” could push the country into a deeper economic recession.

Still, the congressman emphasized that the most serious challenge for Obama’s budget will be withstanding a “dysfunctional” Congress.

“It’s going to probably have some difficulties over in the Senate. And it’s probably dead on arrival over at the House. But that’s because of Congress is dysfunctional,” Cleaver said. “The danger here is that we’re going to struggle around without addressing the major problems.”

He added, “The president is getting a lot of criticism. I don’t think it’s deserved that, he has create all these problems. We do have a serious ailment as a nation and certainly as Congress, we suffer from Spendigitis, but President Obama is not the one who spread this disease. It was there when he was inaugurated.”

Obama will announced his budget plan for the 2013 fiscal year on Monday.


:lol:

#7 PeaceFrog

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 06:43 PM

The Whitehouse is denying they're going to do it, but this is it:

Called the international minimum tax, the White House proposal aims "to eliminate tax incentives to ship jobs offshore by ensuring that all American companies pay a minimum tax on their overseas profits, preventing other countries from attracting American business through unusually low tax rates." Essentially, it's a domestic tax mechanism that would ensure American companies pay taxes on their overseas profits.


http://www.politico....ays-114403.html

And I'm for it, BTW.

#8 seany

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 06:46 PM

I've already decided that I'll be running off to Mexico when the shit hits the fan. There's a booming market for ex-pats that like to dive and drink tequila :lol:

#9 TakeAStepBack

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 07:33 PM

I've already decided that I'll be running off to Mexico when the shit hits the fan. There's a booming market for ex-pats that like to dive and drink tequila :lol:


I'm looking at farms in Argentina. But, historically, when the gubmint in a country gets too big, they generally close down citizens abilities to move capital or themselves out of the country.

#10 PeaceFrog

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 08:10 PM

:panic:

#11 PeaceFrog

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 08:11 PM

so, what's your beef with the Government in the Netherlands?

#12 TakeAStepBack

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 08:20 PM

What is my "beef" with the Netherlands?

WTF are you talking about. Can't we have ONE thread in here without fool comments?

Just one?

Post us a nice JPEG of some lies or something. You are completely useless without atleast bringing a few lulz to the thread.

#13 PeaceFrog

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 10:49 PM

you keep insisting that social programs inevitably lead to socialism which inevitably leads to tyranny.

Is the Netherlands some kind of anomaly?

#14 seany

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 11:05 PM

Ground control to PF: There was no reference (or even a tangent that might lead to a reference) of the Netherlands in this thread until you brought it up. And then questioned why TASB had a problem with them.

Um... Hello?

:lmao:

#15 PeaceFrog

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 11:25 PM

yeah but doesn't he say that all the time?

maybe it's somewhat of a tangent... I'm thinking he's getting at a new world order conspiracy here and who knows he could be right.

But, isn't the Netherlands pretty much libertarian-socialist?

#16 TakeAStepBack

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 11:45 PM

You either need more of what you're on, or less. Either way, this has NOTHING to do with the Netherlands, social programs, socialism or tyranny. It must be a dizzy experience in your daily world, brehm. :smile:

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 12:58 AM

Ron Paul Sucks :darr: