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#1 Joker

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Posted 12 February 2012 - 02:20 PM

:lol:

Maine Caucus Results 2012: Mitt Romney Wins Contest


PORTLAND, Maine

#2 DancingBearly

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Posted 12 February 2012 - 06:43 PM

A 3 point diff. means they really don't like him? Take a spin:rotf:

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Posted 12 February 2012 - 07:20 PM

No dude, it's deeper than that, it's a conspiracy maaaan. Mitt is "their" guy and they're going to do whatever they can to get him in the nomination. They gave Mitt Iowa before the count was complete too and now when he really needed the win in Maine,they gave it to him again without a full count.

FWIW I don't think Paul stands a snowballs chance in hell anyway :wink:

There's more to the story

Maine's caucuses began Feb. 4 and continued throughout the week. Several communities elected to hold their caucuses at a later date.

Caucuses in Washington County that had been scheduled for Saturday were postponed until Feb. 18 because of a major snowstorm that blanketed the region. Earlier, party Executive Director Michael Quatrano said county officials had been told the results of that caucus would not count toward the total.


But Washington County GOP Chairman Chris Gardner objected, saying he had known his county's tally wouldn't be included in Saturday's announcement but didn't realize it wouldn't be counted at all. He said he had called state party leaders and "expressed my complete and utter dismay."

Gardner, a Romney supporter, said the snowstorm had left him no choice but to postpone the caucuses.


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Posted 12 February 2012 - 08:16 PM

Like rigging is any new to republican partay:rotf:

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 03:40 PM

:yawn:

The winner of the 2012 election is about to submit his first budget in 3 1/2 years. Although, it's just another promise broken to reduce the deficit spending by the end of term one. And it's looking like 1.3 Trillion for this year. Then claims it will fall next year when he taxes the $200,000 income citizens at 39% (up from 36%).

Anyone that knows better knows that taxing more money does not cut spending.

"The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy."

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 04:07 PM

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#7 TakeAStepBack

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 04:20 PM

Rut-roo, we're gonna need a triple dose.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 01:49 PM





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Posted 15 February 2012 - 02:38 PM



Doug Wead tells Maddow what's really happening in the primary. Very interesting.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 04:40 PM

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#11 TakeAStepBack

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 04:53 PM

:yawn:

Don't you ever tire of being a complete idiot? or is it all just natural for you?

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 05:17 PM

How come most Ron Paul followers aren't even old enough to vote yet?

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 03:00 AM

How come most Ron Paul followers aren't even old enough to vote yet?


Maybe fresh young minds have not been brainwashed into the corrupt corporate two sides but on the same coin dogma?:dunno::mrgreen:

Who is PeaceFrogs choice? (start a thread):mrgreen:

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 02:01 PM

Does the Romney-Ron Paul Pact Make Paul a Sellout?

The proudly incorruptible libertarian's all-but-open collusion with Mitt Romney, the establishment candidate, should infuriate his fans. And yet somehow it doesn't.


Ron Paul is helping Mitt Romney. It's been obvious for months. You'd think Paul's followers would be outraged by this -- but they're not.

The Paul-Romney alliance means the race's most ideologically pure fiscal conservative has effectively sold out to the least conservative, least consistent, most establishmentarian candidate in the field. Romney favors the basic concept of progressive taxation and a government's right to compel citizens to purchase health insurance. It's unthinkable that he would, if elected, end the Federal Reserve. Alone among the candidates, he insists that there be no cuts to any military spending. All these stances are anathema to Paul's staunchly absolutist world view.

On paper, you would think Romney would be the chief subject of attacks from the Paul campaign, which has, in its television ads, been more unapologetically negative than any other. Paul has run one ad that slams all three of his rivals -- Newt Gingrich ("serial hypocrite"), Rick Santorum ("counterfeit conservative") and Romney ("flip-flopper). But that's nothing compared to the attacks he's unleashed pointed solely at Santorum ("fake," "a record of betrayal") and Gingrich ("selling access").

Romney is the major only candidate Paul hasn't singled out in an ad. And Paul's ads against his competitors have been far more brutal than anything Romney or his super PAC have put on the airwaves. In crucial stages of the GOP primary thus far, he's put hundreds of thousands of dollars behind these ads, helping squelch Santorum and Gingrich when they posed the most danger to Romney's candidacy.


Lots more pretzel logic
http://www.theatlant...sellout/253805/




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Posted 01 March 2012 - 02:22 PM

There is no Paul/Romney alliance. Ricky spit that vomit up when he was getting his ass handed to him because he's a phony.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 05:38 PM

it's about as logical as putting earmarks into a bill, and then not voting for it.

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 01:53 PM

No dude, it's deeper than that, it's a conspiracy maaaan.


there is absolutely no doubt that cheating occured in Maine.

So, with that, how about Alaska?

http://www.alaskadis...aul-lose-alaska

How did Ron Paul lose Alaska?

Paul's ardent supporters here in the 49th state were on Wednesday casting a wide net, including allegations of polling impropriety, disenfranchisement and other shenanigans by Alaska Republican Party officials.

As the only Republican presidential candidate to make the lonely journey to Alaska this election cycle, and with a groundswell of support from the state's libertarian-leaning independents, many national pundits and local political watchers had expected a Ron Paul win here on Super Tuesday.

It did not come to pass. Paul ended up placing third in Alaska's presidential preference poll. Mitt Romney won Alaska by the skin of his nose, taking 32.4 percent of the vote, according to The Associated Press. Rick Santorum, in what seemed surprising, came in a strong second here, taking 29.2 percent. Paul received 3,175 votes, or 24 percent of the turnout. That should net Paul about six delegates to the GOP National Convention in August.

It all amounted to some serious, post-Super Tuesday head scratching for the Paul 2012 campaign after their man had lost three states he'd been predicted to win, including Alaska, Idaho and North Dakota. Thousands turned out to see Paul on Sunday in Alaska. Thousands turned out, too, for him in Idaho and North Dakota. Paul went so far to as to predict he'd win at least one or two of them, himself.

Idaho is a Mormon-heavy state so Mitt Romney's domination there seems more understandable. North Dakota has a national reputation for its particular brand of Western social conservatism; Rick Santorum doesn't seem a far-fetched winner there, though Paul came in a respectably close second.

But Alaska? Paul enjoys a deep volunteer base here. His supporters were organized on Tuesday night. It would seem, though, that the campaign simply wasn't able to convert that enthusiasm into victory.

Ron Paul for Alaska campaign chief Evan Cutler harbors other suspicions.

"People were turned away at the polls that were registered to vote due to confusion among the poll volunteers. Voter registration databases were outdated. Younger voters, voters of a certain demographic were turned away," Cutler said, adding that the campaign had conducted exit polling across the state and that numbers reported by the state party leaders "didn't jibe."

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The allegations didn't stop there. Cutler also accused party bosses of levying "poll taxes" of at least $50 for participation in post-vote district conventions. The Paul campaign even accuses Alaska GOP Chairman Randy Ruedrich of rigging his own district via teleconference to make sure Mitt Romney -- the state establishment Republican choice -- won a majority.

An email Cutler sent Ruedrich was forwarded to Alaska Dispatch.

"There were some other complaints about the process in your own district," it said. "According to the reports I received, when the District Convention convened there were 7 delegates in your cohort and 7 in the Ron Paul one. Instead of letting people vote then, I was told you instead called supporters from your side one by one until you had enough people on the Romney side on the phone to take all the delegate slots. …"

Did it really happen? "Absolutely not," Ruedrich said in an interview Wednesday night. "It just isn't true, absolutely not true. We did not vote via teleconference even though it would have been fully appropriate."

Ruedrich says that he and another party worker left his district's polling place "to process state data from the preference poll. When we issued an all-data-in report, we returned to the convention because it was still in process. We participated in the vote in person."

Ruedrich went on to refute the poll tax allegations, the disenfranchisement, the other things Paul supporters were whispering. He said complaints were common for a constituency that failed to achieve its objective. But he also said the Paul campaign's accusations were something more than just sour grapes.

"This is a little bit more severe," he said.

While the he-said, she-said continues, one thing is certain: the Alaska Republican Party's rules are labyrinthine. Who knew that people could vote via teleconference in a district convention? Doesn't that seem like a recipe for accusations of preference or vote-weighting?

"It's fully appropriate," Ruedrich said.

The Paul campaign doesn't think so and Cutler said he and other up-and-coming young Republicans weren't pleased with the way Ruedrich was managing the state's GOP.

"Ruedrich and others are bending their own rules for Romney. It's not fair. There's a history of game playing in Alaska's Republican Party. People shouldn't be disenfranchised. They shouldn't have to pay to play. … Ruedrich should probably go," Cutler said.

Alaska's Republican presidential poll is conducted solely by party bosses like Ruedrich and isn't overseen by the state's Division of Elections. Cutler isn't the first conservative to call for Ruedrich's head.

But much mightier politicians (including Sarah Palin) have taken him on, only to be frustrated again and again...

From the comments section:


It’s important to me that when I am quoted in any newspaper, any place where quotation marks are placed around words attributed to me, that the contents are accurate to what I had verbally stated.
Your article found at:
http://www.alaskadis...aul-lose-alaska
has some seemingly accurate quotes, and many important ones that are not.
In my phone interview with Eric, I only mentioned the reports I heard, and I did not claim that these incidents had actually occurred, but rather that people reported to me that they did occur. I was not a participant nor a witness to the events in question. We can further investigate the veracity of these claims by interviewing the recorded people at the relevant functions.
One paragraph where I am misquoted jumped right out at me because it was not consistent with what I had said or with the tone of our interview:
“"People were turned away at the polls that were registered to vote due to confusion among the poll volunteers. Voter registration databases were outdated. Younger voters, voters of a certain demographic were turned away," Cutler said, adding that the campaign had conducted exit polling across the state and that numbers reported by the state party leaders "didn't jibe."
While I discussed the topic of voter registrations, I did not say “voter registration databases were outdated.” I did state that the voter-roles the poll workers had were released last Tuesday and were only updated the previous Friday. Thus, anyone who had changed their voter registration in the past week would not be in the voter rolls database at the polling location, but that they should still have the right to vote and either have their ballot entered into “questioned” status, or rather, that they should have been given the opportunity to re-register again at the poll.
To misquote me and use words I didn’t say to imply a point subtly different from what I had stated is a violation of ethical journalistic conduct. Furthermore, the act of putting quotation marks around a misquote very likely constitutes libel, which potentially carries ethical as well as criminal consequences, as you are well aware of being a professional journalist. I can only assume that your recollection of what I had said was incomplete, inaccurate, or otherwise incorrect and I wish to give you the best opportunity to correct this error in reporting.
Additionally in said paragraph, you make it seem that the second hand accounts of the incidents I relayed to you are things that I asserted as fact. As I previously mentioned, I was not at those locations. My District Convention was miles away and was actually conducted very professionally. There were perhaps 10 district conventions occurring that evening, and as a grassroots organizer, my responsibility was only to relay some of the pertinent reports I was hearing. The quoted section above makes it look as though I stated that I witnessed these alleged improprieties, when I actually told you we are investigating these claims and are trying to consolidate and verify the information we were receiving.
I think these are serious allegations; it is very important to investigate the veracity of these claims, for if they are true, this may constitute execution of unacceptable party practices and call into question the integrity of those parties responsible for these actions. Our intent is not to make unjustifiable accusations, but to determine what exactly happened, how we might improve on the process in the future, and furthermore whether or not any party is liable for fraudulent or unethical actions at the expense of the Republican process. My fear is that this seems to be a pattern, and if this continues in the upcoming district conventions, that the integrity and accuracy of the voting process is in jeopardy.
Rather than attempting to resolve this through legal recourse, and in order to preempt and prevent this from occurring in the future, we would like to work with you in a very detailed investigation as to what actually occurred by identifying and presenting these and any other allegations or claims in a written format or audio transcript. We believe that this will be the best way to handle the situation so that the integrity of the Republican primary process may be preserved. We also expect that as a professional journalistic enterprise, it is in your interest, and it is your primary and ethical duty to report the facts.
We at Alaskans for Ron Paul 2012 believe in good faith that all of these matters were simply a result of the fact that humans inherently fallible. We also believe in good faith that as a professional news source, you will cooperate with us to get to the truth and bring it to a public forum.
Given the late hour at which this article was drawn to my attention, I do not have time to dissect it line by line for accuracy and rebuttal. Recognize that our campaign effort is solely based on a volunteer effort, we have very limited resources, and any energy expended towards coming to the bottom of this issue will dilute our efforts. Yet we recognize the importance and seriousness of these allegations, so we would be happy to do our best to consolidate our concerns by quantifying, itemizing, and prioritizing the allegation and claims we see as legitimate and in need of rectification. Furthermore, we would seek to identify the individuals who are the actual source of these anecdotes, so that they may be quoted directly.
I hope for a timely response and the rectification of the misquotes still published on your website.
Evan Cutler, Organizer
Alaskans for Ron Paul 2012 (http://www.alaskans4ronpaul2012.org/)
https://www.facebook...laskans4RonPaul
(907) 529-5683
Girdwood, AK 99587



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Posted 08 March 2012 - 01:56 PM

Independant run?

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 01:59 PM

After doing a search on Randy Ruedrich, I came to many topics regarding fraud and corruption allegations on himm dating back to 2002. The guy is either a bad luck magnet for accusations, or something is rotten about this character.


At any rate, I guess it should come to no surprise for Paul or his supporters that if the GOP can't beat you out fair and square, they will certainly resort to cheating to make that happen.

He would have donr himself a favor by running independent, even though that means, like other parties not of the blue or red, he would get absolutely zeero national attention from the media. Which to me, isn't worse than receiving mud balls of the filth journalism variety.

Oh, well. It's a rigged and crooked game and if a few votes don't count, none of them really do. May as well vote for your own penis.

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 02:01 PM

Independant run?


I can't call it. One thing is certain, the GOP are fucked without reclaiming Paul supporters under their nominated crony. And that isn't going to happen. Especially when people are seeing that they are being cheated out of victories by their own party.

Congrats to Obama for the default win in November. The GOP can, of course, go fuck themselves.

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Posted 09 March 2012 - 05:25 PM

Nevada vote fraud official

As if anyone who’s been paying attention over the last few weeks is actually surprised, another caucus state is taken down by GOP officials, permanently altering the outcome of yet another election, rendering its results forever in question.

This time, however, the people of Nevada are the immediate victims of mounting state GOP scandals, as the historical “First in the West” Nevada Caucus has been officially rendered a fraud, and the unwitting citizens and voters are once again left holding the bag.

So far, the overall magnitude of the circumstances has gone largely unnoticed by the people of the US in general, but that didn’t deter NV GOP Chairwoman, Amy Tarkanian from filing her resignation the very next morning on Sunday, as obvious and rampant, widespread election fraud is sweeping through the country in an establishment elite attempt to hide the real results, in favor of a pre-chosen candidate, despite the wishes of the American people.

Very similar to the circumstances that played out in Iowa just weeks ago, also forcing a state GOP official there to recently submit his own resignation, precincts across the state of Nevada are now coming up with mismatching numbers, missing votes, and ultimately and permanently unverifiable results, rendering the entire United States 2012 election process a total failure and, so far, unrecoverable.

After almost every Caucus thus far, the election has to be ultimately rendered meaningless. with the only real solutions being independent Grand Jury investigations, total do-overs, or simply allow the establishment and it’s minions to steal the nomination away from the people and the candidate they are actually trying to choose, and simply give it to Mitt Romney instead.

Amazingly, as state after state is ransacked by establishment backed party officials, as Romney continues to benefit from all the pre-meditated mayhem, the establishment’s media continues to act as if nothing whatsoever is happening and everything is under control, as if all this has been the plan all along.

Breaking the story of Chairwoman, Tarkanian’s resignation, while trying to be as quiet about it as possible, The Nevada Sun did their very best to spin the circumstances and cleverly word the story, attempting to leave the reader with the impression that everything was going to be ok, when the actual reality of the circumstances is obviously quite dire.

As it turns out, just as in Iowa, the likelihood that Ron Paul should have actually been the winner is very high. Not only did CNN show live coverage of a special late evening vote count in a populated Las Vegas precinct that had Ron Paul winning by almost 60%, statistics are showing that Ron Paul may have actually won the entire caucus by approx. the same margin, had in not been for another round of State GOP election fraud that is seemingly never going to be address by the powers that be, for obvious reasons.

There was even a CNN videotaped situation outside of that same precinct that had event staff attempting to prevent a Ron Paul supporter from entering the premises, seemingly so he couldn’t assure a fair results count.

Perhaps the most obvious aspect of the situation, however, may be the fact that Nevada is a known Libertarian state, Ron Paul has basically campaigned there since his last attempt at the white house, his numbers have almost doubled in every state since then, yet Nevada state GOP ‘officials’ expect everyone to believe he actually received fewer votes there in 2012 than he did in 2008?

The situation has become so desperate for the American People and the rule of law, even the historically very humble and quiet Ron Paul should consider coming forward to cry foul. Something he has yet to do, largely because he came so close to winning in Iowa, despite GOP state officials rigging the outcome for Romney…then Santorum.

He also knew he’d be targeted by that same establishment’s media and ridiculed as a conspiracy theorist, if he tried speaking out against what should be obvious if it were actually handled honestly by the media, both locally and nationally.

It’s now become so obvious that the establishment will do anything to rig the results they are even willing to do it openly, even in caucus states that have paper ballots that are harder to hide.

This desperate attempt to make Mitt Romney the candidate, despite the wishes of the American people, must be a dead give-away that, should he happen to end up beating Obama, he is the one that is guaranteed to continue the overall and continual, multi-decade, establishment 1%’r agenda, whether the people of the United States agree with it or not.

Considering the fact that it seems Ron Paul should be the one actually winning the majority of the caucuses and primaries thus far, goes a long way in showing those paying attention that Obama also represents that same status quo that Mitt Romney does, something the establishment is refusing to let the people of America chose not to go along with.

One thing is for sure, it’s going to be very interesting to watch this play out, as scandal after scandal mounts, state by state. Will the people simply sit back and allow the establishment to force their favorite candidate into office, regardless of what the people desire? Only time will tell...

Sources:

Iowa Situation:

Iowa Vote Fraud Official: http://www.examiner....-fraud-official

Matt Strawn, Iowa GOP Chairman, To Step Down http://www.huffingto..._n_1244186.html

Nevada Situation:

Vote count in GOP caucus continuing in Nevada’s largest county http://www.lasvegass...adas-largest-c/

Nevada GOP dealing with ‘trouble box’ of questionable ballots http://www.lasvegass...ng-trouble-box/

Excess Ballots Were Counted In Clark County, Nevada

Ron Paul Trounces Everyone! In Only Nevada Caucus Vote Counted On Live TV

Ron Paul 2008-2012 Vote Comparison (image graph) http://www.sodahead....estion-2441519/

NEVADA CAUCUS VOTE FRAUD PROOF! 2012 NEVADA CAUCUS PRIMARY VOTER FRAUD PROOF

Newt Gingrich Supporter: Everyone Is Voting For Ron Paul!

Move Over, Iowa, Nevada Has A Caucus Problem Too http://www.npr.org/b...cus-problem-too

It is official: Elections in America are a complete hoax http://www.examiner....ax?CID=obinsite

Why Nevada’s GOP caucuses were a jackpot of embarrassments http://blog.sfgate.c...#commentlistpos

Nevada! Clark County Vote Fraud http://robertwanekre...nty-vote-fraud/

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#24 TakeAStepBack

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 02:02 PM

Main stream media buries Ron Pauls first popular vote win by diverting to delegates, rather than the standing view of the popular vote.

Romney wins Virgin Islands GOP Caucus

The Republican Party chairman in the U.S. Virgin Islands says Republican presidential front-runner Mitt Romney has won the territory’s GOP caucus.

Chairman Herb Schoenbohm says Romney can count on seven delegates from the Virgin Islands. He already had three superdelegates before Saturday’s caucuses and he picked up three more in voting in St. Thomas and St. Croix. After the vote, an uncommitted delegate switched to Romney.

Ron Paul got one delegate, and one delegate remains uncommitted.

Residents of the U.S. Virgin Islands can participate in primaries but like residents of nearby Puerto Rico cannot vote in the general election.


http://www.usatoday....ands/53470876/1

So, he can't win any caucus or primaries and even when he won the popular vote, he still lost to GOP pledge delegates to Ronmey.

Basically, no matter what, the media will report him the loser. So, yes, they do not like him and will do nothing short of cheating, misleading and lying to make that happen.

Why are the GOP and MSM so afraid of Ron Paul?
(Rhetorical question, of course)

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 03:17 PM

RP is too much of a threat to too many powerful peeples way of life

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 06:37 PM

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"THIS is what Hope for America looks like! From today's Columbia, Missouri rally."

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 07:09 PM

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Somehow, Ron keeps on losing though.......it's very interesting.

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 11:53 PM

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