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#1 china cat

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 05:01 AM

Romney and Obama, claiming "They're both the same."

http://www.dailymail...mney-Obama.html

#2 PeaceFrog

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 06:11 AM

:lol:

he's right, for the most part. I like his strategy.

#3 TakeAStepBack

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 05:06 PM

It's shaping up to be a nice country. Big government statists run the democratic and republican platforms and all other parties are squelched by the corporate media lapdogs of our owners. It's come to the point where the party ideologies are so greyed and blurred, that the only differences we can see between the presidential candidates has to viewed from a superficial level.

in other words we have one party posing as two to shape the debate and fill the heads of americans with nonissues that they will bring to the polls as the real issues and cast their vote accordingly.

Blue tie or red? Fair share talk, or phony free market talk?

What a fine, classy, intelligent, well informed and highly motivated society we've created here. :undecided:

#4 Jabadoodle

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 07:26 PM

I disagree.

#5 Jabadoodle

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 07:27 PM

What a fine, classy, intelligent, well informed and highly motivated society we've created here. :undecided:


And actually, in large part, yes.

#6 PeaceFrog

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 09:11 PM

If Mitt Romney wins the nomination, I think more people might vote 3rd party since it makes little difference anyway...

If someone like Ron Paul or Newt Gingrich runs, people will be more polarized.

#7 TakeAStepBack

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 01:42 AM

I disagree.


How so? Can you cite examples that prove that there is a true difference in the party platforms besides social issues that the federal government has no authority in deciding from the start?

Disagreement is agreeable in that regard.

#8 TakeAStepBack

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 01:45 AM

And actually, in large part, yes.


Can you elaborate?

#9 PeaceFrog

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 10:01 PM

Mitt Romney is kind of anti-union, and Obama is kind of pro-union.
Mitt Romney is pro-Life, and Obama is pro-Choice
Mitt Romney wants to lower taxes on corporations and billionaires, Obama wants to raise taxes on corporations and billionaires
Romney is anti-government regulation, Obama is pro-government regulation
Romney is kind of pro-war, Obama is kind of anti-war
Romney is against universal health care, Obama is for it

I'm sure the list goes on and on, but those are a few differences off the top of my head. To some people, the differences are great enough to make a decision, to others it isn't so clear.

I think one of the greatest influences a President has on the country is in who they decide to appoint as Supreme Court justices. Sometimes we don't see the effect of these decisions until many years after the President is out of office.

#10 TakeAStepBack

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 12:39 PM

Mitt Romney is kind of anti-union federal legislation, and Obama is kind of pro-union legislation. Except not really, as he throws his own support base under the proverbial bus.

Fixed.

Mitt Romney is pro-Life, and Obama is pro-Choice

Not a federal government task to determine. It's a nonissue in politics. Sort of like tie color.

Mitt Romney wants to lower taxes on corporations and billionaires, Obama says he wants to raise taxes on corporations and people making 250,000 a year or more. Which is hardly taxing just the wealthiest.

Fixed.

Romney is anti-government regulation, Obama is pro-government regulation

Horseshit. Romney and Obama both love the federal government mandates...as long as they are the ones making the mandate.

Romney talks of pro-war, Obama is of pro-war.

Fixed.

Romney is for state legislated universal health care, Obama is for federal government legislated U.H care.

Fixed.

I'm sure the list goes on and on, but those are a few differences off the top of my head. To some people, the differences are great enough to make a decision, to others it isn't so clear.

I'm not going to speak on behalf of others, but to me it's pretty damn clear their positions are almost identical apart from the route at which the rhetoric flows.

#11 PeaceFrog

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 06:48 PM

Fixed.


Not a federal government task to determine. It's a nonissue in politics. Sort of like tie color.


Fixed.


Horseshit. Romney and Obama both love the federal government mandates...as long as they are the ones making the mandate.


Fixed.


Fixed.

I'm not going to speak on behalf of others, but to me it's pretty damn clear their positions are almost identical apart from the route at which the rhetoric flows.


Humans and chimps share 96% of the same DNA... but we're not identical.

#12 TakeAStepBack

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 07:08 PM

Humans and chimps share 96% of the same DNA... but we're not identical.


that's an excellent comparison. It hit every note spot on. :rotf:

#13 PeaceFrog

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 07:12 PM

what seems like only subtle differences to you, are not so subtle to other people. What's so difficult to grasp?

#14 TakeAStepBack

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 07:32 PM

Your subtle differences above aren't even differences. it's the same thing said a different way. If that's the "subtle" difference, then I guess we're right on track in this country.

#15 vic

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 07:43 PM

Romney is kind of pro-war, Obama is kind of anti-war


tasb pretty much debunked most of your myths, but i gotta point to this one and ask you honestly...what the fuck are you smoking?:huh:

#16 TakeAStepBack

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 08:01 PM

You don't expect a real answer to that do you. It's part of the derpfrog MO. i entertain it, for some silly reason.

#17 PeaceFrog

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 08:03 PM

they speak about it differently.

There's really no way of knowing how their actions would be different. It's not anything you can prove.

Differences are differences. To the untrained eye, there's no difference between different shades of colors, but to an artist there is.

Eskimos have a whole bunch of different words for snow. Carpenters know about the different kinds of wood, but it pretty much all looks the same to me.

#18 PeaceFrog

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 08:06 PM

bees see colors that we don't even think is there

#19 TakeAStepBack

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 08:10 PM

:one:

#20 PeaceFrog

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 08:12 PM

think about wine tasters and all the distinctions they make

all some people care about is if it gets you drunk

#21 vic

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 08:12 PM

they speak about it differently.

There's really no way of knowing how their actions would be different. It's not anything you can prove.

Differences are differences. To the untrained eye, there's no difference between different shades of colors, but to an artist there is.

Eskimos have a whole bunch of different words for snow. Carpenters know about the different kinds of wood, but it pretty much all looks the same to me.


what?

#22 TakeAStepBack

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 08:13 PM

You want to climb out of that mental attic and stick to the subject of policy differences between candidates, or are we moving on to the birds, bees and wine tasting?

#23 PeaceFrog

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 08:14 PM

it's like the difference between bud light and seltzer water... very subtle.

#24 TakeAStepBack

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 08:15 PM

what?


it's all in the MO, vic. if you want to debate an issue with the derp, you have to toilet brush around in that head of his a long time to get the bowl clean. :funny1:

#25 PeaceFrog

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 08:15 PM

when you say that the two candidates are the same, you remind me of a person that just doesn't understand the differences.

#26 vic

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 08:15 PM

wow.

#27 PeaceFrog

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 08:17 PM

thing is, I already answered, and you "debunked"

I disagree with some of your debunking, I agree with some of it.

either way, it is what it is.

#28 PeaceFrog

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 08:18 PM

I understand the strategy behind comparing the two and saying they're the same... they are very similar, so I don't think it's an outright lie... just a strategy.

#29 PeaceFrog

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 08:19 PM

what's the difference between a strategy and a tactic?

I don't know.

#30 TakeAStepBack

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 08:32 PM

Use your big boy dictionary. They have them online! :crazy:

#31 vic

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 08:37 PM

oh dear:rotf:

#32 PeaceFrog

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 08:41 PM

oh yeah I looked it up and I still don't understand. I guess they're both the same.

#33 TakeAStepBack

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 09:00 PM

:rotf:

Here, I'll help you out. you seem to need some.

Strategy
1. Also, strategics. the science or art of combining and employing the means of war in planning and directing large military movements and operations.
2. the use or an instance of using this science or art.
3. skillful use of a stratagem: The salesperson's strategy was to seem always to agree with the customer.
4. a plan, method, or series of maneuvers or stratagems for obtaining a specific goal or result: a strategy for getting ahead in the world.

Can be confused:   stratagem, strategy, tactic (see synonym note at the current entry ).


Synonyms
1. In military usage, a distinction is made between strategy and tactics. Strategy is the utilization, during both peace and war, of all of a nation's forces, through large-scale, long-range planning and development, to ensure security or victory. Tactics deals with the use and deployment of troops in actual combat.


tactic
1. tactics ( def. 1 ) .
2. a system or a detail of tactics.
3. a plan, procedure, or expedient for promoting a desired end or result.

Can be confused:   stratagem, strategy, tactic (see synonym note at strategy).


Strategy, even in my profession, is the long term path to goal attainment. The tactic, is the procedure used in the strategy.

#34 PeaceFrog

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 09:08 PM

nice. thanks for clearing that up for me.

now what's the difference between fuchsia and magenta?

#35 PeaceFrog

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 09:09 PM

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both look like light purple to me

#36 TakeAStepBack

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 09:09 PM

Shades. But a color blind person may not be able to distinguish. You going somewhere with this or are we "scrubbin' the bowl" here?

#37 TakeAStepBack

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 09:11 PM

Yeah, it's a clear difference unless one has color blindness.

#38 MeOmYo

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 09:11 PM

:feedtroll:

#39 PeaceFrog

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 09:12 PM

Yeah, it's a clear difference unless one has color blindness.


I think you get what I'm saying.

#40 TakeAStepBack

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 09:13 PM

:feedtroll:


C'mon, it's a bit boring today at the office. Can't I troll the troll on the lollercoaster for a while? :huh:

#41 TakeAStepBack

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 09:14 PM

I think you get what I'm saying.


No, i don't. Which is why I asked if we're just "scrubbin' the bowl" or if you have a point here.

#42 PeaceFrog

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 09:17 PM

it's not that complicated.

there are differences. The differences aren't huge to you, but they're there.

Let me put it to you like this: Do you really give a shit whether your bathroom is fuchsia or magenta? I don't, but to some people, it might make a huge difference. To me all that matters is if the plumbing works.

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 09:19 PM

This thread makes me wanna fingerblast a gram of 2c-i assnectar dubstep remix crackmahls up my boof canal straight through the deemster trench :gop:

#44 TakeAStepBack

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 09:20 PM

Well, they are two seperate colors.......curious though....WTF does this have to do with political agendas?

Are we painting the white house for Obrahma or something?.

#45 TakeAStepBack

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 09:21 PM

This thread makes me wanna fingerblast a gram of 2c-i assnectar dubstep remix crackmahls up my boof canal straight through the deemster trench :gop:


It's passing the time. :lol:

#46 PeaceFrog

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 09:23 PM

Well, they are two seperate colors.......curious though....WTF does this have to do with political agendas?

Are we painting the white house for Obrahma or something?.


You told me there is a clear difference between fuchsia and magenta.

I asked what the hell difference does it make what color your bathroom is painted?

Does it really make a difference as long as the plumbing works? To me, no.

I'm saying that to you, there's no difference between candidates. You are unable to perceive it. To other people, there are differences, even if you think they are only minor.

What would be the point of having fuchsia and magenta if they're both exactly the same?

#47 TakeAStepBack

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 09:26 PM

:rotf:

#48 MeOmYo

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 09:29 PM

it's like taking a microscope to a telescope party maaaaaaaannnnnnn, because they both have lenses.

can't you see what I'm sayinnnnn mannnnnnn

#49 PeaceFrog

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 09:29 PM

like half the country wants the bathroom painted fuchsia, the other half wants magenta, some people want it purple, and you're all the way on the other side telling everyone that lime-green is the way to go.

#50 vic

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 09:30 PM

I bet we could get an extra 10,000 posts in this thread if we offer a reasonable day pass