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Ron Paul is finally getting news coverage!
Started by
PeaceFrog
, Dec 21 2011 12:45 AM
586 replies to this topic
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Posted 21 December 2011 - 04:00 AM
30 year old news letters that prove nothing, do not indicate the congressman's voting record on public affairs AND old news to boot. If this is all that can be drudged up to damn Paul, we're doing great.
How about Newt's record?
Romney?
Bachmann?
Perry?
Obama??????
Tards, the lot of you haters. But keep thinking this justifies that the others have a more sound agenda. Keep thinking you'll win one day by intervention and force. It really is no skin to us. The ideas remain.
How about Newt's record?
Romney?
Bachmann?
Perry?
Obama??????
Tards, the lot of you haters. But keep thinking this justifies that the others have a more sound agenda. Keep thinking you'll win one day by intervention and force. It really is no skin to us. The ideas remain.
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Posted 21 December 2011 - 04:26 AM
Show us the facts then. i'm not taking a robot voice as gospel. Jeez, this is hilarious.
Why have they not offered the completed newsletters? Am I to believe these snippets are real and not forged?
WHERE ARE THE NEWSLETTERS IN FULL.
For a start.
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Posted 21 December 2011 - 04:37 AM
i'm not taking a robot voice as gospel. Jeez, this is hilarious.
why not listen to what the robot is saying? aren't you essentially judging the being rather than the ideas?
I don't know where the newsletters are. I just take it as truth that they exist somewhere.
I guess that's a really good question TASB. I haven't seen the documents myself.
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Posted 21 December 2011 - 04:39 AM
Remember remember, the 20th of December, where I call out robots with mo evidence to show their work. OWS, the socialist movement is nothing more than a bunch of over privileged, over educated capitalist offspring brats, that want to damn their own trust funds.
I lol'd
I lol'd
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Posted 21 December 2011 - 04:41 AM
Remember remember, the 20th of December, where I call out robots with mo evidence to show their work. OWS, the socialist movement is nothing more than a bunch of over privileged, over educated capitalist offspring brats, that want to damn their own trust funds.
I lol'd
I don't care what they are. You're essentially saying the same thing I said when I mocked Ron Paul's voice and hair.
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Posted 21 December 2011 - 04:46 AM
I don't care what they are. You're essentially saying the same thing I said when I mocked Ron Paul's voice and hair.
You are a Marxist. True and clear.
You know Marx, the proletarian godfather of "fair share", was an over educated son of a bourgeoisie that never worked for his income? Worse, he relied on Engels to supplement his income, along with his parents, his entire life.
Fucking loser.
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Posted 21 December 2011 - 04:50 AM
he traded stocks and commodities and eventually made money, but that's not the point...
I don't think I'm exactly a Marxist... but we all can't agree on everything. I don't think we'll ever see Communism the way he imagined.
I like his philosophy and I think it would be a good thing to blend into this system a little more.
I think we all should get a social security check and health insurance from the time we're born until the time we die, and eliminate welfare and unemployment.
I also think college should be free. Even Thomas Jefferson said education should be free.
I don't think I'm exactly a Marxist... but we all can't agree on everything. I don't think we'll ever see Communism the way he imagined.
I like his philosophy and I think it would be a good thing to blend into this system a little more.
I think we all should get a social security check and health insurance from the time we're born until the time we die, and eliminate welfare and unemployment.
I also think college should be free. Even Thomas Jefferson said education should be free.
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Posted 21 December 2011 - 04:51 AM
Again, show the hard evidence that Ron wrote that stuff (back it up with him saying such things in RL) and I'll vote your favorite disaster Obama four more years.....
you live in NY, right?
honestly.. .I think it's better if you do vote for Ron Paul...
if he even makes it to the election.
now if you were in a swing state I might bother to do more convincing.
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Posted 21 December 2011 - 04:54 AM
he traded stocks and commodities and eventually made money, but that's not the point...
I don't think I'm exactly a Marxist... but we all can't agree on everything. I don't think we'll ever see Communism the way he imagined.
I like his philosophy and I think it would be a good thing to blend into this system a little more.
I think we all should get a social security check and health insurance from the time we're born until the time we die, and eliminate welfare and unemployment.
I also think college should be free. Even Thomas Jefferson said education should be free.
It's a fucking moot point, much like your video. Care to share the hard data....didn't think so.
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Posted 21 December 2011 - 04:58 AM
You are a Marxist. True and clear.
You know Marx, the proletarian godfather of "fair share", was an over educated son of a bourgeoisie that never worked for his income? Worse, he relied on Engels to supplement his income, along with his parents, his entire life.
Fucking loser.
OMG
:lol:
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Posted 21 December 2011 - 05:13 AM
OK here's a link... take an honest look at this and tell me what you think. I'm sincere, not just trying to bust balls.
http://newsone.com/n...tters-revealed/
http://newsone.com/n...tters-revealed/
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Posted 21 December 2011 - 05:17 AM
Prove that what I say about Marx isn't true. Realize that i started all of my political understanding as a socialist. I did not formulate my thoughts, and the realities from a "rich" minded start point. I'm a historian....easily labelled a "revisionist". So clearing the slate would on the assertions, could change my mind.
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Posted 21 December 2011 - 05:18 AM
he was the ONLY person in the house to vote NAY to giving Rosa Parks a medal!!!
http://clerk.house.g...999/roll092.xml
come on...
http://clerk.house.g...999/roll092.xml
come on...
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Posted 21 December 2011 - 05:21 AM
OK here's a link... take an honest look at this and tell me what you think. I'm sincere, not just trying to bust balls.
http://newsone.com/n...tters-revealed/
I cant read any of it. Am I missing something?
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Posted 21 December 2011 - 05:24 AM
Prove that what I say about Marx isn't true. Realize that i started all of my political understanding as a socialist. I did not formulate my thoughts, and the realities from a "rich" minded start point. I'm a historian....easily labelled a "revisionist". So clearing the slate would on the assertions, could change my mind.
I really don't even know that much about Marxism or Karl Marx, nor do I care.
I've been told I was a socialist from before I even knew what that was.
I remember telling a neighbor my vision for the world when I was maybe 10 years old. He was older. He goes, "That's socialism!"
I'm like, "What's that? Is it good?"
His only answer was that it looks good on paper but it isn't practical. He was a smart dude... he's a lawyer now.
Anyway. I decided that we shouldn't give up on something just because it failed once, or even many times. If Thomas Edison had that attitude, we wouldn't have the lightbulb today.
I think that investing in education and healthcare for children will pay itself off in the future. We all should have an equal chance from the start, and there's no reason why we can't.
Heck, if children were guaranteed healthcare and education, I might even compromise my position on abortion.
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Posted 21 December 2011 - 05:25 AM
Obama accepted donations from Jeremiah Wright?
oh, did not know
Thought Wright was just his pastor of 20 years.
I don't think Jeremiah Wright was a racist.
But he also is the only one to vote AGAINST giving Rosa Parks a medal... you put everything together and what does it tell you?
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Posted 21 December 2011 - 05:39 AM
Well, if by your definition disliking Jews isn't racist........
what do you mean? Jermiah Wright doesn't like Jews?
Even if that's true... it isn't like American-Jews are widely discriminated against these days.
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Posted 21 December 2011 - 05:55 AM
what do you mean? Jermiah Wright doesn't like Jews?
Even if that's true... it isn't like American-Jews are widely discriminated against these days.
yeah, disliking an ethnicity is fine if that ethnicity isn't widely discriminated against
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Posted 21 December 2011 - 06:00 AM
But he also is the only one to vote AGAINST giving Rosa Parks a medal... you put everything together and what does it tell you?
"He refused to vote for any tax increase or any budget that was not balanced, and eschewed most "pork barrel" projects for his district. He even voted against awarding Congressional Gold Medals to Mother Teresa, Nancy and Ronald Reagan, and civil rights icon Rosa Parks
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Posted 21 December 2011 - 06:09 AM
from this website: http://www.conservat...em-clear-proof/
here are some of his exact words:
here are some of his exact words:
[speaking of blacks] "If you try to catch someone that has stolen a purse from you, there is no chance to catch them,"
"Given the inefficiencies of what DC laughingly calls the criminal justice system, I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal."
“Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5 percent of blacks have sensible political opinions,”
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Posted 21 December 2011 - 01:11 PM
he was the ONLY person in the house to vote NAY to giving Rosa Parks a medal!!!
http://clerk.house.g...999/roll092.xml
come on...
He's the only person in the house to vote "NAY" on a lot of things. And as CC pointed out, his no vote on a medal for Rosa Parks had nothing to do with race.
People who use that vote as evidence that he's a racist are being disingenuous or are very uniformed about what their target espouses.
His only answer was that it looks good on paper but it isn't practical. He was a smart dude... he's a lawyer now.
I couldn't agree with him more. I was attracted to some of Marx's ideas when I was younger, but the more I thought and looked at history, the more I realized the end result of their being implemented across whole societies is oppression, failed economies and great suffering.
Voluntary communal/communitarian living on a small scale is something I have no problem with...it's actually something I'm contemplating for myself. But government formed on those ideals will inevitably turn bad in my opinion.
I decided that we shouldn't give up on something just because it failed once, or even many times.
Hand on a hot stove comes to mind for me. There's a vast difference between dogged pursuit of an invention, or knowledge, as Edison did, and repeatedly putting your hand on a hot stove and thinking, "this time it will work."
