"This morning I posted a photo of myself on Twitter.
No more Chassidic reggae superstar.
[I]Sorry folks, all you get is me
Matisyahu shaved!
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TheDHJ
, Dec 14 2011 01:51 AM
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Posted 14 December 2011 - 01:58 AM
I really wonder if he's going to leave Hasidim behind. I wonder if they've left him behind. I've never really seen anything where they've publicly embraced him.
On the other hand...I've been told "no haffi dread to be Rasta" so...
On the other hand...I've been told "no haffi dread to be Rasta" so...
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Posted 14 December 2011 - 02:58 AM
To me this seemed much more likely to happen than not. I was giving it a 80% chance.
I'd bet the hasidic period lasted at least a little longer because of his professional career.
I wouldn't be surprised if Matt (or Matthew) still connects with Jewish culture and maybe even religion, both in his music and his spirituality.
Mazel Tov Matt Miller
I'd bet the hasidic period lasted at least a little longer because of his professional career.
I wouldn't be surprised if Matt (or Matthew) still connects with Jewish culture and maybe even religion, both in his music and his spirituality.
Mazel Tov Matt Miller
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Posted 14 December 2011 - 04:29 AM
to quote a friend of mine, a writer who covers jewish culture
"rather than use his unexpected fame to call attention to other jewish artists, he basically decided to totally leave the jewish community (personified by his breach in contract with JDub records) to suck up to platinum artists like POD (with whom he recorded tracks for an album with a giant crucifix on the cover) and basically become a famewhore. and the consequence is that he feels alienated from his community, depressed, and alone"
http://www.facebook....69/&h=MAQF74KlQ
"rather than use his unexpected fame to call attention to other jewish artists, he basically decided to totally leave the jewish community (personified by his breach in contract with JDub records) to suck up to platinum artists like POD (with whom he recorded tracks for an album with a giant crucifix on the cover) and basically become a famewhore. and the consequence is that he feels alienated from his community, depressed, and alone"
http://www.facebook....69/&h=MAQF74KlQ
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Posted 14 December 2011 - 12:14 PM
seems to me that matt wrote the italicized print in the op himself.Or more likely the one who is depressed is the blog writer who is bummed Matthew dropped the beard, etc.
He seems far from depressed in his post. He seems re-juiced. "Reclaiming" himself sounds positive to me
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Posted 14 December 2011 - 02:26 PM
So ...
Beatboxing Phish lot rat from White Plains almost wrecks his life, gets in with Chabad, becomes authentic Jewish reggae artist (as opposed to the quasi-Jewish bullshit spewed by Rastafarians), outgrows the need for the cult. Good thing he got out before he got the wife with the $5,000 human hair wig and 8 children to support.
Next case, please.
Beatboxing Phish lot rat from White Plains almost wrecks his life, gets in with Chabad, becomes authentic Jewish reggae artist (as opposed to the quasi-Jewish bullshit spewed by Rastafarians), outgrows the need for the cult. Good thing he got out before he got the wife with the $5,000 human hair wig and 8 children to support.
Next case, please.
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Posted 14 December 2011 - 02:59 PM
It sounds like to me religion helped him out of a hole he was in. It gave him a positive direction and hope in life. For that reason alone religion was a good thing for him regardless of the faith he wound up following. In general some people need a sense of community and togetherness to help them get through daily life. Religion can offer that to some people. On the other hand he obviously felt that his religious beliefs were now pulling him away from his true inner identity and in some ways controlling his path in life. Which is why he most likely choose this time out of any to fully become his inner self again.
But you don't have to take my word for it.
But you don't have to take my word for it.
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Posted 14 December 2011 - 03:09 PM
You mean what's in the OP. Yeah.seems to me that matt wrote the italicized print in the op himself.
I'm just saying that he doesn't seem depressed and alone. If anything, it more seems that when he WAS depressed and alone he turned to the Hasidic community... kinda like Joe just wrote. And now that he's not depressed and alone, he is free to go back to himself
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Posted 14 December 2011 - 03:13 PM
I think the real story is that he scored tickets for Phish on the 30th, and the only way he could roll on Shabbos was to drop the Hasidic thing.You mean what's in the OP. Yeah.
I'm just saying that he doesn't seem depressed and alone. If anything, it more seems that when he WAS depressed and alone he turned to the Hasidic community... kinda like Joe just wrote. And now that he's not depressed and alone, he is free to go back to himself
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Posted 14 December 2011 - 03:25 PM
So ...
Beatboxing Phish lot rat from White Plains almost wrecks his life, gets in with Chabad, becomes authentic Jewish reggae artist (as opposed to the quasi-Jewish bullshit spewed by Rastafarians), outgrows the need for the cult. Good thing he got out before he got the wife with the $5,000 human hair wig and 8 children to support.
Next case, please.
I think the real story is that he scored tickets for Phish on the 30th, and the only way he could roll on Shabbos was to drop the Hasidic thing.
unbelievable. you nailed it, twice.
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Posted 14 December 2011 - 06:40 PM
my support group for former orthodox jews is freaking out, thinking they are joining him. But I'm not too sure. OTOH I think if he DID want to stop being religious, it's going to be a weird road at this point, since he has built his career on his jewish hassidic identity.
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Posted 14 December 2011 - 07:06 PM
It's nothing about which out to freak. He'll find a nice modern Orthodox congregation somewhere and do his thing comfortably and privately.my support group for former orthodox jews is freaking out, thinking they are joining him. But I'm not too sure. OTOH I think if he DID want to stop being religious, it's going to be a weird road at this point, since he has built his career on his jewish hassidic identity.
Or he'll get a grill, bunch of tattoos, and start packing heat when he goes clubbing with his entourage.
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Posted 14 December 2011 - 07:12 PM
It's nothing about which out to freak. He'll find a nice modern Orthodox congregation somewhere and do his thing comfortably and privately.
Or he'll get a grill, bunch of tattoos, and start packing heat when he goes clubbing with his entourage.
well they are not "freaking out" in a bad way, more like "OMG matisyahu shaved his beard next he will be declaring he's an atheist!!!!!" which I think is a little premature...
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Posted 14 December 2011 - 07:19 PM
my comment wasn't meant to question, criticize or speculate about where he stands with respect to his religious beliefs or any psychiatric issues. i am merely amused that he seems to think he's a superstar.You mean what's in the OP. Yeah.
I'm just saying that he doesn't seem depressed and alone. If anything, it more seems that when he WAS depressed and alone he turned to the Hasidic community... kinda like Joe just wrote. And now that he's not depressed and alone, he is free to go back to himself
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Posted 14 December 2011 - 07:53 PM
When you're very public and preachy about your religion, people tend to want to know what's up when you change direction.
Do you think Tebow could stop his evangelical preaching without an explanation? no
personally I could care less about Matisyahu or Tebow. Just play music/football and shut the hell up about your religion.
Do you think Tebow could stop his evangelical preaching without an explanation? no
personally I could care less about Matisyahu or Tebow. Just play music/football and shut the hell up about your religion.
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Posted 14 December 2011 - 07:57 PM
Hilarious! Anyone who thinks religion is the hair on your face ... has an opinion I don't share. His music's not generally my cup of tea, but he was good at Mountain Jam, the other year. The posters on his site who don't understand that what's in your heart matters more than the hair on your face and are making assumptions about his personal life because he shaved are annoying enough to make him and anyone who reads their words not want anything to do with ultra-orthodoxy. Maybe his (apparent) nye gig in FL just isn't selling tickets, and this is part marketing.well they are not "freaking out" in a bad way, more like "OMG matisyahu shaved his beard next he will be declaring he's an atheist!!!!!" which I think is a little premature...
His booker picked the wrong Florida coast for him for nye. Tampa area nye is all about Donna the Buffalo. If I were going to be down there then, DtB would totally be my plan.
