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#2301 Joker

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 04:37 PM

Occupy Tries A New Tack: Legal Protest


After an autumn marked by spontaneous marches, arrests and raucous street theater, Occupy Wall Street is changing tactics as it plans a march next month that some organizers hope will rekindle the movement's momentum.

Occupy backers say they will stage an official comeback with their call for a national general strike on May 1, a traditional day of left-leaning rallies and demonstrations, which they have billed as a "Day Without the 99%."

This time, however, there is a notable exception: The protest will be legal.

In a nod toward the needs of its more mainstream allies, especially labor unions, Occupy organizers agreed to obtain a city permit for the march from Union Square to Battery Park. The permit was secured by Transport Workers Union Local 100, which represents city subway and bus workers.

"While we believe we have a right to rally and march, we don't want to expose our immigrant workers to police tactics," said Wilfredo Larancuent, 60 years old, manager of the laundry workers union, Workers United, who is also affiliated with SEIU. "If people don't have any documentation and they do get arrested, they can face deportation."

A TWU spokesman didn't respond to a request for comment.

The compromise represents a shift in tone for Occupy. It launched onto the international stage in the fall after its anti-corporate message and tent city in a Lower Manhattan park tapped into popular anger over income inequality and joblessness. Its boisterous, unpermitted marches—over the Brooklyn Bridge and in Times Square, among others—led to hundreds of arrests.

But a November police raid broke up the encampment, and even the mild winter discouraged mass gatherings. Occupy has struggled to regain its energy, and the march could demonstrate whether it went into hibernation or has lost strength.

At the same time, labor unions have tried to maintain ties with the group, a natural ally that still draws crowds and attention.

The May 1 march existed before Occupy Wall Street. New York City unions have staged a May Day march for the past three years to mark International Workers Day, Mr. Larancuent said. To the best of his knowledge, he said, no arrests were made during those rallies.

A spokesman for the New York City Police Department didn't respond to a request for comment.

While organizers of this year's march—composed of representatives from the labor movement, immigrant organizations, Occupy Wall Street activists and others—agreed to secure the permit, the decision was met with some resistance.

"My personal opinion is that we don't need a permit. It's going to be thousands and thousands of people," said Occupy Wall Street organizer Shawn Carrié, 22, a member of the May Day planning committee.

But Andrew Smith, another protester in the loosely organized movement, believes the group has room for many different approaches. "If unions would like to get permits, then we can do actions that are high-risk. Things can happen simultaneously," said Mr. Smith, 26.

Even with the permit, some groups are keeping their distance from Occupy's call for a strike. Chung-Wha Hong, the executive director of the New York Immigrant Coalition, said she hopes participants will view the march as "a separate effort."

"We're being very precise about our march route so that participants know they can stay safe. This is not an action that is meant to disrupt. It's an action to get out our message," Ms. Hong said. "Legalize, organize, unionize are basic themes that are broad enough and strong enough to attract all different groups."

While the march is expected to be well-attended, most of the 50 participating unions don't plan to strike on May 1, a decision that has disappointed many Occupy Wall Street activists.

Mr. Larancuent said that unions are free to strike, though he believes political walk-outs aren't in line with U.S. labor movement traditions.



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Posted 21 April 2012 - 05:00 PM

oh that tack is new?

You're a liar.

Or, you're just completely misinformed which is more likely the case.

Occupy Albany has done everything "by the book" since it began. That's probably why you don't hear much about it.

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 06:00 PM

Occupy factions, divided in tactics, to start anew


After a quiet late winter, Occupy movements all over the Bay Area are lurching to life again with spring - but this time they are coming in two sharply divided forms.

One contingent is open to violence if it feels provoked and is planning to demonstrate May 1 at the Port of Oakland and possibly try to shut down the Golden Gate Bridge.

The other pledges nonviolence, plans to picket the meetings and homes of corporate titans - and resents what it sees as dilution of the Occupy message with media images of protesters breaking windows and trashing buildings.

The two factions could clash as the springtime roster of planned actions rolls out.

"We are going to do our actions peacefully, not getting arrested, and if anyone wants to fight or get really aggressive or start breaking things, they are not part of us," said Karen Beck, an organizer for Occupy demonstrators from the Livermore-San Ramon area - who prefer to call themselves 99 Percenters to distance themselves from factions open to violence.

"First we will try to ignore them, then we'll out-chant them," Beck said. "And if that doesn't work, we will call the police on them."


Read more: http://www.sfgate.co...L#ixzz1st5sI7WY

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 07:46 PM


Buckle up, it's going to be a bumpy ride


Occupy protester: “Dude, let’s go get guns”

The long-planned revival of the occupy movement is right around the corner, and we already have a new example of the violent rhetoric we’ve come to expect from the ‘mostly peaceful’ group. From where else but Occupy Portland. [Content warning for multiple f-bombs and other raw language]


If I had a f–king AK right now…

I have a solution dude, let’s go get guns.


In case it wasn’t clear, these threats were directed at the police for preventing the protesters from re-occupying the park, which city officials have wisely closed during overnight hours.

Yes, spring is in the air, and unfortunately along with it a return of all the horrors of the occupy movement. But maybe we shouldn’t judge the movement as a whole by a few bad apples. It’s not like any more official voices of occupy are promoting violence against the police. Well, except for this lovely imagery courtesy of OccupyMay1st.org, which is the communication hub for occupiers organizing a national general strike on May 1.Posted Image

The file name for this image is “rainbowunicorncopkillwsa”. Yeah, that about sums it up.

And then there is this little tidbit from the latest edition of Ignite (pdf), the official anarchist newspaper in Denver.


On the night of Feb. 20th in Denver, a “young man” described as white or Hispanic and dressed in “a hoodie with patches” was approached by police swine for alleged “suspicious activity” on 17th and Julian. The youth, evidently not the type to take any shit, pulled a pistol, fired a single shot that missed the cop, and fled on foot successfully. No suspect has been apprehended at time of press. The local anarchist community upon learning the news breathed a sigh of relief at the lack of arrests and collectively said “too bad they f–king missed.”


Makes you wonder why a mainstream progressive activist like Van Jones would throw his support behind such a movement. Hmmm.

It’s going to be a long summer.





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Posted 24 April 2012 - 01:23 PM

Heads up all you tweeters


Judge: DA can subpoena NY Occupy protester tweets


An Occupy Wall Street protester can't stop prosecutors from getting his tweets, a judge has ruled in a clash over the bounds of privacy in an age of living publicly on social networks.

In a ruling punctuated with Twitter users' beloved hashtag marks, the judge said prosecutors weren't overreaching by seeking Malcolm Harris' public tweets for weeks before and months after his Oct. 1 disorderly conduct arrest on the Brooklyn Bridge, as well as the user information surrounding the Twitter account he used at the time.

"There is, in fact, reasonable grounds to believe the information sought was relevant and material to this investigation," Manhattan Criminal Court Judge Matthew A. Sciarrino Jr. wrote in a decision Friday. He also found that Harris doesn't have legal standing to challenge a subpoena directed to Twitter Inc., not him.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 05:38 PM

I just now decided I'm voting for Barack Obama in 2012 mainly just to spite you.

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 05:24 PM

report from the corner.

very large peacful protest going on right now across from the top of Wall St.
Tax Wall St to find an AIDS cure ?
sounds honorable enough, imho thorwing cash at the problem will only serve to fill the pockets of the pharmy compaines that would rather not cure or prevent, but only sell maintance meds.

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 05:44 PM

(Reuters) - Nearly 100 protesters affiliated with the "99 Percent" populist movement disrupted General Electric Co's annual shareholders' meeting on Wednesday in an attack on the largest U.S. conglomerate's low tax rate.
The demonstrators, who began chanting "Pay Your Fair Share" when the meeting began, were quickly ushered out of the meeting -- held in the Detroit building that houses General Motors Co's headquarters -- but could still be heard chanting protests as the meeting got underway.
After their exit, Chief Financial Officer Keith Sherin stepped up to defend GE's tax practices, and noted that the company's low tax rates in 2008 and 2009 were the result of heavy losses at GE Capital.
"Over the 2008 through 2010 time period we lost over $30 billion in credit losses at GE Capital and that reduced our pre-tax income and also our rate," Sherin said. "Our U.S. tax expense last year was $2.6 billion. We are a large taxpayer, we pay our taxes and we very much support tax reform."
As they were ushered outside, protesters rejoined a large crowd of hundreds of other demonstrators with signs that read "Tax Dodgers at Work" and "This is What Democracy Looks Like." Police herded them away from the riverfront building.
The protesters were part of the "99 Percent" movement, an offshoot of last year's Occupy Wall Street protests. Both are loosely organized around the idea that the U.S. economy no longer serves the needs of most Americans. The "99 Percent" moniker contrasts the average citizen to the nation's wealthiest.
None of the demonstrators were arrested, unlike the scene at Wells Fargo & Co's shareholder meeting in San Francisco a day earlier, where about a dozen were arrested.

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 06:04 PM

from an event earleir today i must have been working hard, or it wasn;t a loud event.

AIDS and Occupy protesters arrested after blocking traffic in lower Manhattan Read more: http://www.nypost.co...P#ixzz1t4nTajXi

Act Up Wall Street protesters chained themselves in a line across Broadway today. Nine ACT UP protestors in Robin Hood costumes were arrested after chaining themselves to a lamppost and disrupting traffic in the Financial District, cops and witnesses said. The activists chanted and waved signs that read "Tax Wall Street” and “End AIDS" after forming a human chain in the crosswalk across the New York Stock Exchange on Broadway and Broad Street. Emergency Service Unit cops used bolt cutters to break open the locks and rounded the protesters up into their vans at 9:50 a.m. Demetris Brown, 22, a protester at the rally, said: “Everyone chained themselves together and police came to break up the locks and locked everyone up.” ACT UP will be holding a daylong demonstration in Lower Manhattan today. They are calling for a small tax to raise money to combat the global AIDS epidemic. Read more: http://www.nypost.co...P#ixzz1t4o9YJmY

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it's a little hard to tell where this was, Broad St & B'way run in the same basic north / south direction, never crossing each other.

NYSE is on Broad, so maybe it was Broad and Wall, which has been closed to veh. traffic since 2001/2002.

#2310 vic

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 06:14 PM

NYSE is on Broad, so maybe it was Broad and Wall, which has been closed to veh. traffic since 2001/2002.


so how can traffic be blocked there?

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 06:16 PM

after furthur reviw, they did block Broadway, on of NYC's most active streets.
Trinity Chruch is in the background.
from what i remember, OWS was not a fan of that church either - they wanted more than the curch was giving them, didn't like they owned so much land.

good thing they were not run over by a truck.

plea deals all around - no doubt.


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Posted 25 April 2012 - 06:19 PM

so how can traffic be blocked there?


pedestrian / foot traffic ?

hundreds of not thousands of tourits everyday, many 99%'s going to and from work, that kind of thing.

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 06:22 PM

Posted Image could delay ambulances, fire trucks + other emergency vehicles. the next south bound streets are 2 and 3 blocks away depending on which side of B'way you are on.

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 06:44 PM

pedestrian / foot traffic ? hundreds of not thousands of tourits everyday, many 99%'s going to and from work, that kind of thing.


aren't tourists blocking traffic every day then? :lol:

i'm just joshin here...chaining yourself up is asking to be arrested

i don't have a problem w most arrests, just the violence...people expect to be arrested and are willing to to get their point across...getting beaten is a different story

this apparently seems like it's not an occupy event, but a worthy one nonetheless

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 07:45 PM

not direclty, i think it's part of the "99 pickets" run up for May Day.

we do agree on this
i don't have a problem w most arrests, just the violence...people expect to be arrested and are willing to to get their point across...getting beaten is a different story

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Posted 28 April 2012 - 02:37 PM

http://www.huffingto..._n_1459057.html

Rep. Yvette Clarke (D-N.Y.) notified the Capitol Police Thursday after receiving threatening phone calls, after a video of her appearing to criticize the Tea Party was posted on several conservative websites.

Sure the Tea party are not violent. This is terrorism, not just pulling away from a cop or laying in a street.

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Posted 28 April 2012 - 03:58 PM

I don't think anyone said there was no violence in the Tea Party. I, for one, believe there's extremists in pretty much any group like this.

From what I read there didn't seem to be any indication they had actual evidence of who did the threatening. While the videos do show her insulting and accusing all members of the Tea Party and it wouldn't come as a surprise that members might feel attacked and reciprocate with threats I see nothing other than speculation it's them based on the fact she thinks they're crazy.

However, I'd say that's far different from the organized weekly hate rallies we see out of Occupy.

She also describes the Tea Partiers coming out to protest as them coming out to intimidate, I wonder if she feels the same way about the Occupy protests.

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 06:53 PM

Looks like this guy finally gets his house back



Occupy squatters finally flushed from B’klyn home



It’s finally un-Occupied.

Police arrested six Occupy Wall Street members squatting inside a Brooklyn home five months after the movement seized the property amid grand promises to “renovate” it and move in “a homeless family.”

Instead, the group moved itself in, wrecked the place, and made a hard situation even worse for a single father who actually owned the East New York home and was trying to save it from foreclosure.

Cops cuffed the occupiers after they allegedly smashed a window to get into 702 Vermont St. on April 1.

Mohammed Olivo, 22, of The Bronx, was charged with resisting arrest and burglary.


Also charged with burglary were: Carlos Goodall, 18, of Valhalla, NY; Mitchell Hundt, 20, of Chicago; Sean Gregg, 18, of Philadelphia; Terrence Hubbard, 23, of Ohio; and East Village resident Decorrus Jones, 25, who has been arrested 31 times for crimes like trespass and petit larceny. “He steals a lot,” cops said of Jones.

Wise Ahadzi, the property’s owner, was thrilled that cops collared the people who were preventing him and two daughters from getting back into their home.

“I’ve been angry since Day One,” Ahadzi said. “I told them that I didn’t want anybody there.”

The bill to fix the damage is at least $12,000, a source said.

“We’re exploring the possibility of assisting him with repairs to the property,” said Bank of America spokesman T.J. Crawford.


Read more: http://www.nypost.co...N#ixzz1tSOIc618

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 04:01 AM

LOL... Jack you freaken kill Tabbooma, you search the web to find negative shit about occupy and post in here over and over... Tabbooma takes his hat off to you for your persistence but you are so freaken one sided.. Yeah Tabbooma gets the picture, you dont like the movement, congratulations... Tabbooma hopes the occupy movement goes on forever so you will have some thing to keep you busy. ;) Tabbooma has spoken


Looks like this guy finally gets his house back Occupy squatters finally flushed from B’klyn home It’s finally un-Occupied. Police arrested six Occupy Wall Street members squatting inside a Brooklyn home five months after the movement seized the property amid grand promises to “renovate” it and move in “a homeless family.” Instead, the group moved itself in, wrecked the place, and made a hard situation even worse for a single father who actually owned the East New York home and was trying to save it from foreclosure. Cops cuffed the occupiers after they allegedly smashed a window to get into 702 Vermont St. on April 1. Mohammed Olivo, 22, of The Bronx, was charged with resisting arrest and burglary. Also charged with burglary were: Carlos Goodall, 18, of Valhalla, NY; Mitchell Hundt, 20, of Chicago; Sean Gregg, 18, of Philadelphia; Terrence Hubbard, 23, of Ohio; and East Village resident Decorrus Jones, 25, who has been arrested 31 times for crimes like trespass and petit larceny. “He steals a lot,” cops said of Jones. Wise Ahadzi, the property’s owner, was thrilled that cops collared the people who were preventing him and two daughters from getting back into their home. “I’ve been angry since Day One,” Ahadzi said. “I told them that I didn’t want anybody there.” The bill to fix the damage is at least $12,000, a source said. “We’re exploring the possibility of assisting him with repairs to the property,” said Bank of America spokesman T.J. Crawford. Read more: http://www.nypost.co...N#ixzz1tSOIc618



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Posted 30 April 2012 - 12:31 PM

LOL... Jack you freaken kill Tabbooma, you search the web to find negative shit about occupy and post in here over and over... Tabbooma takes his hat off to you for your persistence but you are so freaken one sided.. Yeah Tabbooma gets the picture, you dont like the movement, congratulations... Tabbooma hopes the occupy movement goes on forever so you will have some thing to keep you busy. ;) Tabbooma has spoken

That is a story that I've been following since it started. In fact, I had just mentioned it again last week.

I've posted many threads about Occupy both positive and negative. You'll notice practically all the negative ones have to do with the violence and the breaking of laws, NOT the movement itself.

Now I don't like the movement? There you go accusing me of something that just isn't true.

I've stated many times I believe in the cause. I just don't believe in, nor do I support, the violence and confrontational tactics that have been used. I'm certainly not alone in feeling this way and I'm certainly not going to stop calling them out for it just because some of you seem to feel it's acceptable behavior.

I also believe that anyone who is going to cast their vote for the very guy Wall St corps backed with millions and millions, should think twice before talking about how much others support what Occupy is really about.

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 03:32 PM

LOL... Jack you freaken kill Tabbooma, you search the web to find negative shit about occupy and post in here over and over... Tabbooma takes his hat off to you for your persistence but you are so freaken one sided.. Yeah Tabbooma gets the picture, you dont like the movement, congratulations... Tabbooma hopes the occupy movement goes on forever so you will have some thing to keep you busy. ;) Tabbooma has spoken


Now I don't like the movement? There you go accusing me of something that just isn't true.


saying you imagine mayday is going to be a big fat whinefest and then wondering why everyone is calling you out and STILL throwing out that it's not true that you don't like the movement...all the while calling people liars that you simply disagree with while spitting out this big fat consistent blatant lie...you're a funny one, guy :lol:

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 04:45 PM

Yeah, I imagine that May Day thing is going to be all about acting up much like a spoiled little child seeking attention. Then they'll cry, point and blame the cops for starting shit.


Because there's no way that could possibly happen :zstupid:

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 05:05 PM

the point is you're still spewing that blatant lie...and nobody believes you

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 05:12 PM

Now I don't like the movement? There you go accusing me of something that just isn't true.


The only person you're fooling is yourself. Your position on occupy is without a doubt, one sided.

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 05:15 PM

http://occupywallst....rmitted-may-da/

Full (?) Schedule for NYC tomorrow.

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 05:42 PM

i'm wondering is the guitarmy gonna have amplified sound allowed?

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 05:48 PM

I think the longer this goes on and the more people participate, the less anarchy there will be at the protests... because I don't believe that most people are anarchists.

I think there is power in numbers, and I think heavier volume means less volatility.

If we let the anarchists control the protests, whose fault is that but our own?

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 06:07 PM

The only person you're fooling is yourself. Your position on occupy is without a doubt, one sided.

From the start my position has been that I approve of the message, that I am for peaceful protest to get that message across and that I'm against, and will speak out about, violent and/or confrontational protest.

I'm not the least bit ashamed to be on that side.

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 06:21 PM

From the start my position has been that I approve of the message,


more lies.

most of your references to the message have been of a heckling kind, most recently post #13 in the may day thread, along with you saying it's going to be a bunch of children crying for attention

what message do you approve of exactly?

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 06:33 PM

From the start my position has been that I approve of the message, that I am for peaceful protest to get that message across and that I'm against, and will speak out about, violent and/or confrontational protest. I'm not the least bit ashamed to be on that side.


If you didn't so vehemently defend the police brutality with what ifs, "it appears to me" and "if they would of listened", your above peace and love bullshit statement would almost be believable.

In the end, your posts regarding occupy spew a negative tone towards the movement as that is all you post about. NEGATIVE. But, good on you for approving, the, um, message.

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 07:04 PM

If you didn't so vehemently defend the police brutality with what ifs, "it appears to me" and "if they would of listened", your above peace and love bullshit statement would almost be believable. In the end, your posts regarding occupy spew a negative tone towards the movement as that is all you post about. NEGATIVE. But, good on you for approving, the, um, message.

:lol:

So it's my "defense of police brutality" that's the problem?

Best I should just jump on the "fuck the cops" bus if I want to be taken serious? :rolleyes:

As I've been saying since way back in Sept. those on either side who do wrong should be held accountable for their actions.

Now I could go back in this very thread and dig up post after post of no negativity towards Occupy but I think you know that despite what you claim.

As I've already said, any negativity is directed towards those breaking laws, creating confrontation and basically trying to start shit, not towards the movement itself.

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 07:16 PM

i already posted about your most recent heckling of the message and i'm not gonna bother to dig up older heckling because nobody buys your bullshit anyway

unless of course you posted that article in the may day thread because you're a marxist

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 07:20 PM

:lol: So it's my "defense of police brutality" that's the problem? Best I should just jump on the "fuck the cops" bus if I want to be taken serious? :rolleyes: As I've been saying since way back in Sept. those on either side who do wrong should be held accountable for their actions. Now I could go back in this very thread and dig up post after post of no negativity towards Occupy but I think you know that despite what you claim. As I've already said, any negativity is directed towards those breaking laws, creating confrontation and basically trying to start shit, not towards the movement itself.


Do whatever you want. I couldn't care less that you approve of something. But when you say one thing and do another, people will call you out on it, as many have.

If you posts are not directed at the movement, why not start another thread?

You're only fooling yourself.

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 07:25 PM

Now I could go back in this very thread and dig up post after post of no negativity towards Occupy but I think you know that despite what you claim.


also

NO, I don't know that. If there are non-negative posts that you claim, your negative posts overshadow those by such a large amount, that you kinda forget about them.

sheesh, if this is what you do when you approve of something, I'd hate to see what you are like if you do not agree with it.

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 08:13 PM

You don't seem to understand that there's a difference between approving the message and disapproving of the way the message is being delivered.

Deliver the message peacefully and I'm behind it 100%. Don't and I'm going to speak up.


If that's what is considered negative then I am guilty

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 08:17 PM

Joke, did you forget that you've also hinted that the movement is not anti-Obama enough for you, and you are against unions.

If you're so concerned, then why don't you get active and be a positive force in the movement rather then perpetuating your negativity on a daily basis here?

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 08:25 PM

You don't seem to understand that there's a difference between approving the message and disapproving of the way the message is being delivered. Deliver the message peacefully and I'm behind it 100%. Don't and I'm going to speak up. If that's what is considered negative then I am guilty Posted Image


dodging the fact that you posted an article calling may day the return of karl marx, i see

and the question: what part of the occupy message do you support?

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 08:32 PM

i'm wondering is the guitarmy gonna have amplified sound allowed?


I didn't get that impression since they will be marching, and also where would the power come from? generators? batteries? maybe solar?

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 08:35 PM

dodging the fact that you posted an article calling may day the return of karl marx, i see and the question: what part of the occupy message do you support?

Do you seriously have a hair across your ass because of this?

Second Coming Shocker!
Karl Marx Returns to Earth Instead of Jesus!

by Susie Day
NEW YORK, NY -- Millennial Christians and godless communists alike were stunned when nineteenth-century economist and revolutionary Karl Marx suddenly returned from the dead about two hours ago to land, in bodily form, at the corner of Nassau and Wall Streets.

His appearance interrupted Occupy Wall Street protesters as they negotiated the preparations for an anticapitalist May 1 General Strike. Seeming irritable and out of sorts, Mr. Marx sat glowering astride a fiery white horse amid apocalyptic clouds of glory, as hordes of journalists and OWS activists waving cell phones crushed in to record the event.

"HA HA! You're undead!" laughed a cub reporter from The Wall Street Journal, pointing derisively at socialism's greatest sage. "Where's your dialectical materialism now, huh?

http://mrzine.monthl.../day240412.html

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 08:40 PM

yeah i just read that it's a march with 1000+ guitars...gonna be hard to even catch up close enough to hear it

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 08:49 PM

yeah i just read that it's a march with 1000+ guitars...gonna be hard to even catch up close enough to hear it


I just heard about it myself. Tom Morello from RATM was just on MSNBC. He'll be there. They said bring whatever instruments you have even if it's just a kazoo -- as long as it wasn't made in a sweatshop.

#2342 Feck

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 08:53 PM

?
it's been on the web site for at least a week, good luck + stay safe

#2343 Tabbooma

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 12:48 AM

Come on Jack, constantly posting negative articles written by some conservative sources does not help your case at all that you are not against the occupy movement, Tabbooma is not putting words in your mouth, your relentless negative posts against occupy do it for you. ;)

That is a story that I've been following since it started. In fact, I had just mentioned it again last week. I've posted many threads about Occupy both positive and negative. You'll notice practically all the negative ones have to do with the violence and the breaking of laws, NOT the movement itself. Now I don't like the movement? There you go accusing me of something that just isn't true. I've stated many times I believe in the cause. I just don't believe in, nor do I support, the violence and confrontational tactics that have been used. I'm certainly not alone in feeling this way and I'm certainly not going to stop calling them out for it just because some of you seem to feel it's acceptable behavior. I also believe that anyone who is going to cast their vote for the very guy Wall St corps backed with millions and millions, should think twice before talking about how much others support what Occupy is really about.



#2344 Joker

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 11:44 AM

Constantly posting negative articles? Please point out the last 5 that you consider to be negative articles about the movement itself rather than being about the negative actions of some bad apples that are making the movement as a whole look bad.

Do you consider the articles where I'm pointing out idiots who are breaking laws and instigating confrontations to be negative articles about the movement? I certainly don't. I believe it's those types of assholes that are putting a negative face on the movement.

Hell this one page goes back 10 days and the 2 articles that "might" be considered negative are the Portland KKK video which I think we can all agree is about a few dopes trying to start trouble and create confrontation just for the hell of it rather than the movement as a whole. And the article about the law breaking squatters who broke in and trashed a home finally getting thrown out and the guy getting his house back.

Meanwhile there are 2 others articles I posted that point out the movement going in the more positive direction of legal protests and less violence. Along with another article warning folks their tweets can be used by the cops and they should be careful.

That's hardly a case of constantly posting negative articles against Occupy.

#2345 PeaceFrog

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 05:14 PM

yup everyone is a liar but joke. he's the only one that is capable of telling the truth around here.

#2346 Feck

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 05:22 PM

i've never been called a liar by him, late to dinner - yes, but a liar - NO

#2347 JBetty

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 05:41 PM

He's tried to give me crappy beer and has told me to STFU on a couple of occasions, but never called me a liar.

#2348 PeaceFrog

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 05:46 PM

he's implying that you're a liar if you think that his overall attitude toward Occupy Wall Street is a negative one.

so, do you think his general tone regarding the protest has been positive or negative?

If you think negative, he thinks you're a liar.

#2349 Feck

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 06:12 PM

if he thinks that i am a liar, he knows he can tell me himself, no implications, he'd just tell me.

47 pages of posts, i really don't care all that much about this to re-read them all.
Even if i did feel he was negative, what would that matter - i can read them or not.
other people reading them can make their own decsions for themselves.

#2350 PeaceFrog

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 06:39 PM

It's easy to take a single post out of context.

dissect it.

how many board members are there... like thousands at least?

and 2 of you come forward to say that Joke hasn't personally called you a liar.

as if I really meant he personally called each individual member of the board a liar -- face to face even.

take it easy... have an ice cold glass of lemonade or something.