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#2201 Feck

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 06:16 PM

after furthur reviw, they did block Broadway, on of NYC's most active streets.
Trinity Chruch is in the background.
from what i remember, OWS was not a fan of that church either - they wanted more than the curch was giving them, didn't like they owned so much land.

good thing they were not run over by a truck.

plea deals all around - no doubt.


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Posted 25 April 2012 - 06:19 PM

so how can traffic be blocked there?


pedestrian / foot traffic ?

hundreds of not thousands of tourits everyday, many 99%'s going to and from work, that kind of thing.

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 06:22 PM

Posted Image could delay ambulances, fire trucks + other emergency vehicles. the next south bound streets are 2 and 3 blocks away depending on which side of B'way you are on.

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 06:44 PM

pedestrian / foot traffic ? hundreds of not thousands of tourits everyday, many 99%'s going to and from work, that kind of thing.


aren't tourists blocking traffic every day then? :lol:

i'm just joshin here...chaining yourself up is asking to be arrested

i don't have a problem w most arrests, just the violence...people expect to be arrested and are willing to to get their point across...getting beaten is a different story

this apparently seems like it's not an occupy event, but a worthy one nonetheless

#2205 Feck

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 07:45 PM

not direclty, i think it's part of the "99 pickets" run up for May Day.

we do agree on this
i don't have a problem w most arrests, just the violence...people expect to be arrested and are willing to to get their point across...getting beaten is a different story

#2206 Bone Daddy

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Posted 28 April 2012 - 02:37 PM

http://www.huffingto..._n_1459057.html

Rep. Yvette Clarke (D-N.Y.) notified the Capitol Police Thursday after receiving threatening phone calls, after a video of her appearing to criticize the Tea Party was posted on several conservative websites.

Sure the Tea party are not violent. This is terrorism, not just pulling away from a cop or laying in a street.

#2207 Joker

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Posted 28 April 2012 - 03:58 PM

I don't think anyone said there was no violence in the Tea Party. I, for one, believe there's extremists in pretty much any group like this.

From what I read there didn't seem to be any indication they had actual evidence of who did the threatening. While the videos do show her insulting and accusing all members of the Tea Party and it wouldn't come as a surprise that members might feel attacked and reciprocate with threats I see nothing other than speculation it's them based on the fact she thinks they're crazy.

However, I'd say that's far different from the organized weekly hate rallies we see out of Occupy.

She also describes the Tea Partiers coming out to protest as them coming out to intimidate, I wonder if she feels the same way about the Occupy protests.

#2208 Joker

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 06:53 PM

Looks like this guy finally gets his house back



Occupy squatters finally flushed from B’klyn home



It’s finally un-Occupied.

Police arrested six Occupy Wall Street members squatting inside a Brooklyn home five months after the movement seized the property amid grand promises to “renovate” it and move in “a homeless family.”

Instead, the group moved itself in, wrecked the place, and made a hard situation even worse for a single father who actually owned the East New York home and was trying to save it from foreclosure.

Cops cuffed the occupiers after they allegedly smashed a window to get into 702 Vermont St. on April 1.

Mohammed Olivo, 22, of The Bronx, was charged with resisting arrest and burglary.


Also charged with burglary were: Carlos Goodall, 18, of Valhalla, NY; Mitchell Hundt, 20, of Chicago; Sean Gregg, 18, of Philadelphia; Terrence Hubbard, 23, of Ohio; and East Village resident Decorrus Jones, 25, who has been arrested 31 times for crimes like trespass and petit larceny. “He steals a lot,” cops said of Jones.

Wise Ahadzi, the property’s owner, was thrilled that cops collared the people who were preventing him and two daughters from getting back into their home.

“I’ve been angry since Day One,” Ahadzi said. “I told them that I didn’t want anybody there.”

The bill to fix the damage is at least $12,000, a source said.

“We’re exploring the possibility of assisting him with repairs to the property,” said Bank of America spokesman T.J. Crawford.


Read more: http://www.nypost.co...N#ixzz1tSOIc618

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 04:01 AM

LOL... Jack you freaken kill Tabbooma, you search the web to find negative shit about occupy and post in here over and over... Tabbooma takes his hat off to you for your persistence but you are so freaken one sided.. Yeah Tabbooma gets the picture, you dont like the movement, congratulations... Tabbooma hopes the occupy movement goes on forever so you will have some thing to keep you busy. ;) Tabbooma has spoken


Looks like this guy finally gets his house back Occupy squatters finally flushed from B’klyn home It’s finally un-Occupied. Police arrested six Occupy Wall Street members squatting inside a Brooklyn home five months after the movement seized the property amid grand promises to “renovate” it and move in “a homeless family.” Instead, the group moved itself in, wrecked the place, and made a hard situation even worse for a single father who actually owned the East New York home and was trying to save it from foreclosure. Cops cuffed the occupiers after they allegedly smashed a window to get into 702 Vermont St. on April 1. Mohammed Olivo, 22, of The Bronx, was charged with resisting arrest and burglary. Also charged with burglary were: Carlos Goodall, 18, of Valhalla, NY; Mitchell Hundt, 20, of Chicago; Sean Gregg, 18, of Philadelphia; Terrence Hubbard, 23, of Ohio; and East Village resident Decorrus Jones, 25, who has been arrested 31 times for crimes like trespass and petit larceny. “He steals a lot,” cops said of Jones. Wise Ahadzi, the property’s owner, was thrilled that cops collared the people who were preventing him and two daughters from getting back into their home. “I’ve been angry since Day One,” Ahadzi said. “I told them that I didn’t want anybody there.” The bill to fix the damage is at least $12,000, a source said. “We’re exploring the possibility of assisting him with repairs to the property,” said Bank of America spokesman T.J. Crawford. Read more: http://www.nypost.co...N#ixzz1tSOIc618



#2210 Joker

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 12:31 PM

LOL... Jack you freaken kill Tabbooma, you search the web to find negative shit about occupy and post in here over and over... Tabbooma takes his hat off to you for your persistence but you are so freaken one sided.. Yeah Tabbooma gets the picture, you dont like the movement, congratulations... Tabbooma hopes the occupy movement goes on forever so you will have some thing to keep you busy. ;) Tabbooma has spoken

That is a story that I've been following since it started. In fact, I had just mentioned it again last week.

I've posted many threads about Occupy both positive and negative. You'll notice practically all the negative ones have to do with the violence and the breaking of laws, NOT the movement itself.

Now I don't like the movement? There you go accusing me of something that just isn't true.

I've stated many times I believe in the cause. I just don't believe in, nor do I support, the violence and confrontational tactics that have been used. I'm certainly not alone in feeling this way and I'm certainly not going to stop calling them out for it just because some of you seem to feel it's acceptable behavior.

I also believe that anyone who is going to cast their vote for the very guy Wall St corps backed with millions and millions, should think twice before talking about how much others support what Occupy is really about.

#2211 vic

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 03:32 PM

LOL... Jack you freaken kill Tabbooma, you search the web to find negative shit about occupy and post in here over and over... Tabbooma takes his hat off to you for your persistence but you are so freaken one sided.. Yeah Tabbooma gets the picture, you dont like the movement, congratulations... Tabbooma hopes the occupy movement goes on forever so you will have some thing to keep you busy. ;) Tabbooma has spoken


Now I don't like the movement? There you go accusing me of something that just isn't true.


saying you imagine mayday is going to be a big fat whinefest and then wondering why everyone is calling you out and STILL throwing out that it's not true that you don't like the movement...all the while calling people liars that you simply disagree with while spitting out this big fat consistent blatant lie...you're a funny one, guy :lol:

#2212 Joker

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 04:45 PM

Yeah, I imagine that May Day thing is going to be all about acting up much like a spoiled little child seeking attention. Then they'll cry, point and blame the cops for starting shit.


Because there's no way that could possibly happen :zstupid:

#2213 vic

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 05:05 PM

the point is you're still spewing that blatant lie...and nobody believes you

#2214 MeOmYo

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 05:12 PM

Now I don't like the movement? There you go accusing me of something that just isn't true.


The only person you're fooling is yourself. Your position on occupy is without a doubt, one sided.

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 05:15 PM

http://occupywallst....rmitted-may-da/

Full (?) Schedule for NYC tomorrow.

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 05:42 PM

i'm wondering is the guitarmy gonna have amplified sound allowed?

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 05:48 PM

I think the longer this goes on and the more people participate, the less anarchy there will be at the protests... because I don't believe that most people are anarchists.

I think there is power in numbers, and I think heavier volume means less volatility.

If we let the anarchists control the protests, whose fault is that but our own?

#2218 Joker

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 06:07 PM

The only person you're fooling is yourself. Your position on occupy is without a doubt, one sided.

From the start my position has been that I approve of the message, that I am for peaceful protest to get that message across and that I'm against, and will speak out about, violent and/or confrontational protest.

I'm not the least bit ashamed to be on that side.

#2219 vic

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 06:21 PM

From the start my position has been that I approve of the message,


more lies.

most of your references to the message have been of a heckling kind, most recently post #13 in the may day thread, along with you saying it's going to be a bunch of children crying for attention

what message do you approve of exactly?

#2220 MeOmYo

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 06:33 PM

From the start my position has been that I approve of the message, that I am for peaceful protest to get that message across and that I'm against, and will speak out about, violent and/or confrontational protest. I'm not the least bit ashamed to be on that side.


If you didn't so vehemently defend the police brutality with what ifs, "it appears to me" and "if they would of listened", your above peace and love bullshit statement would almost be believable.

In the end, your posts regarding occupy spew a negative tone towards the movement as that is all you post about. NEGATIVE. But, good on you for approving, the, um, message.

#2221 Joker

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 07:04 PM

If you didn't so vehemently defend the police brutality with what ifs, "it appears to me" and "if they would of listened", your above peace and love bullshit statement would almost be believable. In the end, your posts regarding occupy spew a negative tone towards the movement as that is all you post about. NEGATIVE. But, good on you for approving, the, um, message.

:lol:

So it's my "defense of police brutality" that's the problem?

Best I should just jump on the "fuck the cops" bus if I want to be taken serious? :rolleyes:

As I've been saying since way back in Sept. those on either side who do wrong should be held accountable for their actions.

Now I could go back in this very thread and dig up post after post of no negativity towards Occupy but I think you know that despite what you claim.

As I've already said, any negativity is directed towards those breaking laws, creating confrontation and basically trying to start shit, not towards the movement itself.

#2222 vic

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 07:16 PM

i already posted about your most recent heckling of the message and i'm not gonna bother to dig up older heckling because nobody buys your bullshit anyway

unless of course you posted that article in the may day thread because you're a marxist

#2223 MeOmYo

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 07:20 PM

:lol: So it's my "defense of police brutality" that's the problem? Best I should just jump on the "fuck the cops" bus if I want to be taken serious? :rolleyes: As I've been saying since way back in Sept. those on either side who do wrong should be held accountable for their actions. Now I could go back in this very thread and dig up post after post of no negativity towards Occupy but I think you know that despite what you claim. As I've already said, any negativity is directed towards those breaking laws, creating confrontation and basically trying to start shit, not towards the movement itself.


Do whatever you want. I couldn't care less that you approve of something. But when you say one thing and do another, people will call you out on it, as many have.

If you posts are not directed at the movement, why not start another thread?

You're only fooling yourself.

#2224 MeOmYo

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 07:25 PM

Now I could go back in this very thread and dig up post after post of no negativity towards Occupy but I think you know that despite what you claim.


also

NO, I don't know that. If there are non-negative posts that you claim, your negative posts overshadow those by such a large amount, that you kinda forget about them.

sheesh, if this is what you do when you approve of something, I'd hate to see what you are like if you do not agree with it.

#2225 Joker

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 08:13 PM

You don't seem to understand that there's a difference between approving the message and disapproving of the way the message is being delivered.

Deliver the message peacefully and I'm behind it 100%. Don't and I'm going to speak up.


If that's what is considered negative then I am guilty

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#2226 PeaceFrog

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 08:17 PM

Joke, did you forget that you've also hinted that the movement is not anti-Obama enough for you, and you are against unions.

If you're so concerned, then why don't you get active and be a positive force in the movement rather then perpetuating your negativity on a daily basis here?

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 08:25 PM

You don't seem to understand that there's a difference between approving the message and disapproving of the way the message is being delivered. Deliver the message peacefully and I'm behind it 100%. Don't and I'm going to speak up. If that's what is considered negative then I am guilty Posted Image


dodging the fact that you posted an article calling may day the return of karl marx, i see

and the question: what part of the occupy message do you support?

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 08:32 PM

i'm wondering is the guitarmy gonna have amplified sound allowed?


I didn't get that impression since they will be marching, and also where would the power come from? generators? batteries? maybe solar?

#2229 Joker

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 08:35 PM

dodging the fact that you posted an article calling may day the return of karl marx, i see and the question: what part of the occupy message do you support?

Do you seriously have a hair across your ass because of this?

Second Coming Shocker!
Karl Marx Returns to Earth Instead of Jesus!

by Susie Day
NEW YORK, NY -- Millennial Christians and godless communists alike were stunned when nineteenth-century economist and revolutionary Karl Marx suddenly returned from the dead about two hours ago to land, in bodily form, at the corner of Nassau and Wall Streets.

His appearance interrupted Occupy Wall Street protesters as they negotiated the preparations for an anticapitalist May 1 General Strike. Seeming irritable and out of sorts, Mr. Marx sat glowering astride a fiery white horse amid apocalyptic clouds of glory, as hordes of journalists and OWS activists waving cell phones crushed in to record the event.

"HA HA! You're undead!" laughed a cub reporter from The Wall Street Journal, pointing derisively at socialism's greatest sage. "Where's your dialectical materialism now, huh?

http://mrzine.monthl.../day240412.html

#2230 vic

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 08:40 PM

yeah i just read that it's a march with 1000+ guitars...gonna be hard to even catch up close enough to hear it

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 08:49 PM

yeah i just read that it's a march with 1000+ guitars...gonna be hard to even catch up close enough to hear it


I just heard about it myself. Tom Morello from RATM was just on MSNBC. He'll be there. They said bring whatever instruments you have even if it's just a kazoo -- as long as it wasn't made in a sweatshop.

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 08:53 PM

?
it's been on the web site for at least a week, good luck + stay safe

#2233 Tabbooma

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 12:48 AM

Come on Jack, constantly posting negative articles written by some conservative sources does not help your case at all that you are not against the occupy movement, Tabbooma is not putting words in your mouth, your relentless negative posts against occupy do it for you. ;)

That is a story that I've been following since it started. In fact, I had just mentioned it again last week. I've posted many threads about Occupy both positive and negative. You'll notice practically all the negative ones have to do with the violence and the breaking of laws, NOT the movement itself. Now I don't like the movement? There you go accusing me of something that just isn't true. I've stated many times I believe in the cause. I just don't believe in, nor do I support, the violence and confrontational tactics that have been used. I'm certainly not alone in feeling this way and I'm certainly not going to stop calling them out for it just because some of you seem to feel it's acceptable behavior. I also believe that anyone who is going to cast their vote for the very guy Wall St corps backed with millions and millions, should think twice before talking about how much others support what Occupy is really about.



#2234 Joker

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 11:44 AM

Constantly posting negative articles? Please point out the last 5 that you consider to be negative articles about the movement itself rather than being about the negative actions of some bad apples that are making the movement as a whole look bad.

Do you consider the articles where I'm pointing out idiots who are breaking laws and instigating confrontations to be negative articles about the movement? I certainly don't. I believe it's those types of assholes that are putting a negative face on the movement.

Hell this one page goes back 10 days and the 2 articles that "might" be considered negative are the Portland KKK video which I think we can all agree is about a few dopes trying to start trouble and create confrontation just for the hell of it rather than the movement as a whole. And the article about the law breaking squatters who broke in and trashed a home finally getting thrown out and the guy getting his house back.

Meanwhile there are 2 others articles I posted that point out the movement going in the more positive direction of legal protests and less violence. Along with another article warning folks their tweets can be used by the cops and they should be careful.

That's hardly a case of constantly posting negative articles against Occupy.

#2235 PeaceFrog

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 05:14 PM

yup everyone is a liar but joke. he's the only one that is capable of telling the truth around here.

#2236 Feck

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 05:22 PM

i've never been called a liar by him, late to dinner - yes, but a liar - NO

#2237 JBetty

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 05:41 PM

He's tried to give me crappy beer and has told me to STFU on a couple of occasions, but never called me a liar.

#2238 PeaceFrog

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 05:46 PM

he's implying that you're a liar if you think that his overall attitude toward Occupy Wall Street is a negative one.

so, do you think his general tone regarding the protest has been positive or negative?

If you think negative, he thinks you're a liar.

#2239 Feck

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 06:12 PM

if he thinks that i am a liar, he knows he can tell me himself, no implications, he'd just tell me.

47 pages of posts, i really don't care all that much about this to re-read them all.
Even if i did feel he was negative, what would that matter - i can read them or not.
other people reading them can make their own decsions for themselves.

#2240 PeaceFrog

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 06:39 PM

It's easy to take a single post out of context.

dissect it.

how many board members are there... like thousands at least?

and 2 of you come forward to say that Joke hasn't personally called you a liar.

as if I really meant he personally called each individual member of the board a liar -- face to face even.

take it easy... have an ice cold glass of lemonade or something.

#2241 Tabbooma

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 11:20 AM

Joker is not a liar,and Tabbooma agrees that violence and breaking shit is lame and does not help... Still think your slanting things Jack ;)

#2242 beerzrkr

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 04:20 PM

Aren’t cops part of the 99%? Why have they been treated like the enemy since day 1?

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 04:43 PM

cops as individuals do make up part of the 99%, however their job duty is to put aside their personal feelings and beliefs and act as agents to protect the interests of the 1%.

Additionally, they haven't been treated like the enemy at all protests since day 1.



#2244 Feck

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 04:49 PM

? they have been protecting me, as part of the 99%, since the start of this type of thing.

#2245 beerzrkr

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 04:55 PM

It is just that I see an awful lot of taunting going on that I don’t understand.

#2246 PeaceFrog

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 05:19 PM

Part of their job is to keep the general peace, and that includes protecting you and me.

The point is that they are not acting on their own as soon as they don their badge. They obey orders that they are given to them from above, which ultimately is the 1%.

I don't view them as THE enemy. They're just pawns in the game.

#2247 PeaceFrog

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 05:21 PM

It is just that I see an awful lot of taunting going on that I don’t understand.


I wonder how much of this taunting is actually incited by undercover officers and paid snitches...

you can't rule out that possibility.

#2248 MeOmYo

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 05:35 PM

I wonder how much of this taunting is actually incited by undercover officers and paid snitches... you can't rule out that possibility.


based on the amount of it happening, I would guess a very, very small percentage, if any.

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 04:52 AM

http://october2011.o...eful-protestors

#2250 Karen

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 12:24 PM

Constantly posting negative articles? Please point out the last 5 that you consider to be negative articles about the movement itself rather than being about the negative actions of some bad apples that are making the movement as a whole look bad. Do you consider the articles where I'm pointing out idiots who are breaking laws and instigating confrontations to be negative articles about the movement? I certainly don't. I believe it's those types of assholes that are putting a negative face on the movement.


Perhaps when you post an article, you could take a moment to say why you are posting it? Clearly you have an opinion of the event/article, which is why you post it, but if you just post the article without any explanation of why you find it to be of interest, it can be perceived as you posting all the negative about Occupy and not 'hey, a few bad apples, here is an example of such'.

I often read the articles you post and cannot figure out if you post it as supporting evidence that Occupy is a bad thing OR you post it in support of Occupy...Honestly, most of the time I cannot tell.

Does that make sense?