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Posted 22 March 2012 - 08:56 PM

peacefully demonstrating ?

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 09:30 PM

100% unprovoked...from a 61-year-old chief who should be a little more professional and not trying to act like a tough guy:

http://cityroom.blog...ith-protesters/

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Except that in the real world where most of us live it wasn't 100% unprovoked. Looks like they were told to stay out of the street so they wouldn't disrupt traffic but they chose to stay on the street. It was the action of the protesters that provoked the reaction from the chief. They stay off the street and don't block traffic, there's no problem.


So did you find that video of them lifting her by her head?

Come up with something the cops did wrong when the girl was having a seizure?

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 12:16 PM

What OWS Should Do Now: Out of the Parks, Into the Mainstream

For years, in the last century, when I was in school and learning about the early days of journalism, we were taught that author Horace Greeley, who founded the New York Herald Tribune, was famous for saying, "Go West, young man, and grow up with the country."

One problem, as we learned recently, is that he may not have coined the phrase but only popularized it. (Another media mistake involving a top dog in the media!) Indiana newspaper writer John Soule may have given the advice in 1851, and it would serve as the mantra for 19th century "action" in the form of Westward migration.

These days, those good and great men and women who won their struggle stripes in the civil rights and anti-Vietnam war movements have a new mantra for action.

Some, who recently appeared at New York's annual Left Forum, were sharing it with younger people, "Go Left."

They would probably agree with Mitt Romney who said recently he can't think of any reason for any young person to support a Democrat -- but for different reasons.

Those who are going left have left the Democrats behind.

Even Bruce Springsteen, who campaigned for President Obama and played at his inauguration, is singing a different tune these days.

He recently told a Music festival in Texas about the first songs he loved. "They were a revelation... the first records of full-blown class consciousness I ever heard," he explained, playing a bit of "We Gotta Get Out of This Place." After reaching the line, "There's a better life for me and you," he added:

That's every song I've ever written. That's all of them. I'm not kidding, either. "Born to Run." "Born in the USA." Everything I've done for the past 40 years, including all the new ones... That was the first time I felt I heard something cross the radio that mirrored my home life, my childhood.

Many of today's more conscious young people seem to be gravitating not into traditional radical class consciousness, but into the ranks of the Occupy Movement, even as the movement's main tactic seems stuck on liberating public space, not on organizing youth or other communities.

Their philosophy of "horizontalism" has been effective in inspiring young activists because of its small "d"
democratic and participatory ethic.

Yet this process, to many, seems more important than the product or result. Propelling an "action faction" or camping as a community is not the same thing as challenging power or remaking it.

Clashes with the police play right into their hands when the story becomes one of confrontation, not of pursuing a clear political agenda. The media's love of "when it bleeds, it leads" is well known.

The Occupy Wall Street website reports:
After the brutal attack on the attempted re-occupation of Liberty Square by NYPD on the six-month anniversary of #OWS, a number of Occupiers have relocated their base of occupation to Union Square in midtown Manhattan, a point of convergence for several #OWS protests over the past 6 months.


According to reports on the ground, several dozen people slept in the park after the illegal and violent raid on Liberty Square. Over 70 people remain, now on Day 3. Although tents and tables are still banned, Occupiers have brought blankets and sleeping gear. Many are calling it ¨The New Occupation.¨

In addition to holding General Assemblies, Union Square Occupiers are providing vital jail support for those arrested on #M17 as they are released from NYPD custody. So far, the NYPD has made no attempt to remove Occupiers or prevent them from sleeping in the park.

Our ability to occupy the commons in order to voice dissent is a vital political right. We do not need a permit to exist in public space. We call on all those who would stand for equality, justice, and liberation -- and against the banks, corporations, wealthy elites, and corrupt politicians who have stolen our democracy and ruined our economy -- to join us now.


* Yes, but why the continuing focus on a return to the parks? The problem seems obvious. When a movement becomes focused on itself, when it seems to have only one tactic, it loses contact with the people it is fighting with and for.

Building community is critical, but so is building alliances and encouraging organization as a means for fighting back.

Saying, "We are the 99 percent," doesn't make it so unless there is a way for new people to get engaged. Not everyone has the time or the disposition to stand through hours of General Assembly meetings that can be unproductive.

Some of the movement's sympathizers are working or have family responsibilities. The OWS work groups are important, but there needs to be more coordination with other direct action and community groups, not just more inward facilitation.

Not everyone believes in leaderlessness. Cultural styles and generational choices can be divisive as well as unifying.

Not everyone is on Facebook or tweets. We can't be fetishistic about one way being the only way!

•How about a broader campaign to place stories in community papers? Even "shoppers" could write letters to the editors and challenge media outlets that distort the movement's outlook.

•How about speaker's committee to book an OWS presence at churches, union meetings and conventions?

•Can't we find ways to broaden and diversify the tent and also make it bigger, so others are more comfortable being involved?

•Can't we more effectively occupy the mainstream so that 99 percent we say we speak for can speak for themselves?

•And why can't Occupy also borrow a page from digital activists like the people behind the Kony 2012 campaign?

Whatever you think of its politics, it has reached tens of millions of people. We can do the same and come up with our own media for better outreach.

• The Occupy Newspaper and related journals offer one direction. The new OWS radio show is another way to make media, not just respond to questions from mainstream press. Why aren't we holding screenings of the many documentaries made about OWS and the issues it is rasing?

Spring is here, but we don't have to fall back to what was done in the fall. It's a time to move forward, experiment with more configurations of action and make the OWS presence felt in more arenas of public life.


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Posted 23 March 2012 - 01:20 PM

poo man got out on $7,500 bail but was rearrested the next day for interfreaing with an arrest of another indivdual

could he be a deep cover goldman employee ?

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 01:04 PM



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Posted 27 March 2012 - 05:32 PM

If someone is walking in the street after the police told them not to, then they should be cited for violating a law, not hit with a stick.

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 06:23 PM

some people seem to think wandering about a foot off of a crowded sidewalk is grounds to get crosschecked by a police chief

the same people who i bet think it's ok to pull a 16 year old's shirt up and parade her down the street in her bra is proper police procedure

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 07:57 PM

If someone is walking in the street after the police told them not to, then they should be cited for violating a law, not hit with a stick.

I agree, however, in this case the cop seems to push the guy to the sidewalk rather than actually "hit" him. Not that I'm condoning that but when you're part of a mob intent on breaking the law then you should expect to be moved when you cross the line.

Again, many of these protesters, like those shown in the video, appear to be baiting the cops in order to get some good video rather than actually "protesting" anything.

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 08:34 PM

the cops started the fighting and have been using force to try to stop any kind of protest...kind of hard to get a message across when beatings and arrests are handed out regularly

people say the movement turned into us vs the cops and that is wrong...the police are working for the rich, and departments are being rewarded handsomely...the manpower used is completely unneccesary and it isn't working...only bringing police brutality to the forefront...

push to the sidewalk? oh man, you really are a fucking tool...good thing all you do with yourself is post your bullshit on a message board

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 08:36 PM

that quote in your signature, jack...why is it there? who is enforcing these erosions of rights? who is enforcing the acception of corruption and helping it go unchecked? who is being short-sighted?

and who is rocking the boat?

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 08:44 PM

http://rt.com/usa/ne...survey-ows-511/


Wall Street firms admit poor public image and Occupy impact – survey


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Occupy Wall Street movement supporters protest during a march from Zuccotti Park to Union Square to protest perceived police brutality in New York, March 24, 2012. (Reuters / Carlo Allegri)

TRENDS: Occupy Wall Street

TAGS: Politics, USA, Banking, Economy, Finance, Social networks



A new study has revealed that over half Wall Street company executives believe the Occupy movement has had an impact on their business. Up to 94 per cent say their firms got a negative public reaction by action or inaction.
­The results of the study, commissioned by Makovsky, an integrated communications firm, do come as something of a surprise. The majority of the surveyed personnel think a negative public perception is the key challenge to be overcome in the next year, while previously they were more worried about recovery and stabilization.
There has been a shift in priority from recovering and stabilizing to focusing on customer satisfaction, employee communications and improving public perception,” said Scott Tagney, executive vice president and head of financial services at Makovsky “Our study reveals that companies are in transition, and this new strategy involves both external and internal integrated communications efforts.”
Eighty-one per cent of those surveyed said they were worried about public reaction to executive compensation in the industry, while about 74 per cent believe increased regulation of the financial market would help the companies build a better public image.
The surveyed personnel also believe that their reputation wasn’t boosted by the use of social media. The majority of the executives said these efforts had a neutral impact, while only 40 per cent noted that it was positive.
We see social media as an emerging communications channel and solution for financial services firms and with regulatory bodies continuing to soften guidelines, social media will grow in importance, especially to improve public perception and connect with customers,” Tagney predicted.
‘Occupy Wall Street affected businesses’

How do the executives view the impact of the ongoing Occupy Wall Street movement? About 53 per cent noted that their companies had been affected by the movement, while only 38 per cent said they were surprised by it. The study also showed that most of the surveyed personnel believe OWS is here to stay, with 71 per cent saying they expect it to continue beyond the presidential election this fall.

­The survey was commissioned by Makovsky, an integrated communications firm with a specialization in financial services, and was conducted online by Echo Research in February-March 2012. The communications research company completed 150 interviews with personnel responsible for the management and supervision of communication or marketing at large or mid-sized public financial services institutions, including banks, brokerage firms, asset management firms and insurance companies.
With the six-month anniversary of the movement sparking a resurgence, the consensus is that Occupy Wall Street is not going away anytime soon, and financial services executives need to be better prepared to address this issue moving forward,” Tagney said.
So the study does reveal something new. Executives are now not as concerned with recovery and stabilization and are focusing their attention on public perception. But will they be brave enough to tackle the issues put forward by the Occupy Wall Street movement and use social media to get the public’s feedback?


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Posted 27 March 2012 - 09:27 PM

some people seem to think wandering about a foot off of a crowded sidewalk is grounds to get crosschecked by a police chief

the same people who i bet think it's ok to pull a 16 year old's shirt up and parade her down the street in her bra is proper police procedure

Wandering? :lol: The cops have a bullhorn telling him to stay on the sidewalk, he CHOSE to cross the line but don't let little things like honesty and truth stop you from your whining about the bad men who are out to get you.



Did you find that video yet? What the cops did wrong?

Can you back up the shit you spew?

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 01:21 AM

the cops started the fighting and have been using force to try to stop any kind of protest...



so how do you explain the peaceful pro life protest on the steps of the Federal Building last Friday ?

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 01:12 PM

so how do you explain the peaceful pro life protest on the steps of the Federal Building last Friday ?


unaware? what happened?

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 01:14 PM

Wandering? :lol: The cops have a bullhorn telling him to stay on the sidewalk, he CHOSE to cross the line but don't let little things like honesty and truth stop you from your whining about the bad men who are out to get you.


what the fuck are you even talking about anymore?

that quote in your signature, jack...why is it there? who is enforcing these erosions of rights? who is enforcing the acception of corruption and helping it go unchecked? who is being short-sighted?

and who is rocking the boat?


???

and how many more "what the cops did wrong" videos do you want?

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 01:26 PM

already posted , but there was a very large group of people protesting the the part of health care bill that would give free contraception to women that chose to use it - mostly churchy types. Speaches, banners, signs, cheering, etc. went on for about 2 hours.

there was even a group gathered on the sidewalk that was for the inclusion.
no fights, no rocks or bottles thrown, no taunting of the other side

we could see the action, from our confrence room window, nice - peaceful protest.

how about the night of a million hoodies, i don't recall any arrests or police shut downs here.
what about the weekly protests by the family of the young man that was shot dead in his bathroom. - no arrests.

but then again, by some accounts , all that could have been staged to make OWS look like bad to the many.

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 01:28 PM

unaware? what happened?


how can you say "stop any type of protest" and be unaware at the same time ?

did you really think there was that the police overtime was costing NYC so much money, that we stopped proviing ambualnce service - and needed to ask if that was the reason why one was late -if it was as you said ?

do you just make stuff up to support their cause , push their adgenda ?

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 01:42 PM

what the fuck are you even talking about anymore?


I'm talking about what I quoted and your suggestion the protester "wandered" into the street, but you knew that already. It's just that once again you're talking shit you can't back up and you don't know what to do when you get called on it.

Where's that vid of them lifting the girl by her head that you were going to pull up?

You're not going to suggest that the video you posted showing at least two cops lifting her by her arms and legs while moving her was the one you meant when you accused them of lifting her by her head are you? Because that certainly wouldn't be an "honest" mistake about what actually happened. There's no way anyone in their right mind could confuse the two actions.

Where's the answer to what they did wrong when the girl was having the seizure?

It's a shame that you, and others like you, have to resort to deceit to try and further your "fuck the police" agenda as it takes away from the efforts of those who are peacefully and honestly working for change.

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 01:48 PM

already posted , but there was a very large group of people protesting the the part of health care bill that would give free contraception to women that chose to use it - mostly churchy types. Speaches, banners, signs, cheering, etc. went on for about 2 hours.

there was even a group gathered on the sidewalk that was for the inclusion.
no fights, no rocks or bottles thrown, no taunting of the other side

we could see the action, from our confrence room window, nice - peaceful protest.

how about the night of a million hoodies, i don't recall any arrests or police shut downs here.
what about the weekly protests by the family of the young man that was shot dead in his bathroom. - no arrests.

but then again, by some accounts , all that could have been staged to make OWS look like bad to the many.

There are plenty of peaceful protests out there but there seems to be a growing misguided segment of the OWS movement who feel confronting and antagonizing the cops is somehow good for the cause.

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 01:51 PM

i predict a few more days of no response, followed by more unfounded, unproven comments and no real reply to my questions.

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 02:05 PM

I'm talking about what I quoted and your suggestion the protester "wandered" into the street, but you knew that already. It's just that once again you're talking shit you can't back up and you don't know what to do when you get called on it.

Where's that vid of them lifting the girl by her head that you were going to pull up?

You're not going to suggest that the video you posted showing at least two cops lifting her by her arms and legs while moving her was the one you meant when you accused them of lifting her by her head are you? Because that certainly wouldn't be an "honest" mistake about what actually happened. There's no way anyone in their right mind could confuse the two actions.

Where's the answer to what they did wrong when the girl was having the seizure?

It's a shame that you, and others like you, have to resort to deceit to try and further your "fuck the police" agenda as it takes away from the efforts of those who are peacefully and honestly working for change.


already posted the better angle and said my mistake about carrying by her head

and yeah, wandered...got 2 forceful cross-checks for his troubles by some tough guy captain that was completely unwarranted...not sure if the video was posted on here yet but i'll repost if you really need it

what do you have to say about the 16-year-old paraded down the street after they lifted her shirt up? nothing?

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 02:17 PM

already posted , but there was a very large group of people protesting the the part of health care bill that would give free contraception to women that chose to use it - mostly churchy types. Speaches, banners, signs, cheering, etc. went on for about 2 hours.

there was even a group gathered on the sidewalk that was for the inclusion.
no fights, no rocks or bottles thrown, no taunting of the other side

we could see the action, from our confrence room window, nice - peaceful protest.

how about the night of a million hoodies, i don't recall any arrests or police shut downs here.
what about the weekly protests by the family of the young man that was shot dead in his bathroom. - no arrests.

but then again, by some accounts , all that could have been staged to make OWS look like bad to the many.


a pro-life rally is a form of "acceptable" protest, and a one day thing which makes it more acceptable and it doesn't speak to the true powers that be, which makes it even more acceptable

my guess on the million hoodie march is that there is true anger in that crowd that the police absolutely do not want to fuck with, because with this trayvon martin kid they have a martyr on their hands...you start beating up a bunch of black people that are fed up with beatings and murders in their community i doubt their priority is to remain peaceful like OWS...OWS was out in full support of every million hoodie march in the country, btw, so there's an example for ya

beatings and arrests directed at OWS are an easy grab and done to protect the elite...they know occupiers won't retaliate because their message is non-violence, save for a fringe group here and there, which hasn't been the case in nyc, save for a nutjob here and there while zuccotti was still open, which IS (or was) a public park afterall


i predict a few more days of no response, followed by more unfounded, unproven comments and no real reply to my questions.


uhhh, i have a fucking life outside of this message board that i only visit while i'm at work, buddy...sorry if my upkeep here isn't up to speed for you

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 02:18 PM

already posted the better angle and said my mistake about carrying by her head

and yeah, wandered...got 2 forceful cross-checks for his troubles by some tough guy captain that was completely unwarranted...not sure if the video was posted on here yet but i'll repost if you really need it

what do you have to say about the 16-year-old paraded down the street after they lifted her shirt up? nothing?

How was it a "mistake" when there was no possible way of confusing their actions with them lifting her by her head.

You just going to keep ducking the seizure question?

I've seen the video, you can clearly hear the cops telling them to stay on the sidewalk, that's where the cops drew the line, he chose to cross the line and test the cops. Of course you'd call it unwarranted, you think they should be allowed to do whatever they want without repercussions. But that's just not how things work in the real world.

I have no idea what you're talking about with the girl being paraded down a street and absolutely no reason to believe you when you say it happened. You've repeatedly proven you can't be trusted to tell truth

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 02:19 PM

speaking of unfounded and unproven, whatever happened with the poop guy that was so clearly an OWS guy?

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 02:24 PM

and it doesn't speak to the true powers that be, which makes it even more acceptable


which is nothing new at all...speaking out against the corporatocracy is a no-no (see seattle '99)

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 02:38 PM

1st vid i found on it...feel free to search for more





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Posted 28 March 2012 - 02:42 PM

to be fair, she did instigate...irrelevant to the handling of the situation though



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Posted 28 March 2012 - 02:50 PM

OWS never replied to my inquiry, but what type of proof would you accpet ?
Even if the guy was on film saying he was OWS, people will say he was making that up.
Just like whenever they have a person cross a line, some people say they are not part of OWS.

When does someone become part of OWS ?

do you still feel "stop any type of protest" is a correct statement or do you need to revise it to "stop any type of non accpetable protest, or where the cops are afraid, etc. ?

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 03:08 PM

Looks like her shirt (what there was of it) got pulled up while she was resisting arrest. So she instigated trouble, got arrested and they carried her off, what's the problem?

Hardly the "cops pulling her shirt up and parading her down the street" you suggest.

So are you going to try and explain how you got the cops lifting her by her head out of the other video or answer the seizure question? Or just you just going to continue dancing away from your dishonesty?

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 03:13 PM

OWS never replied to my inquiry, but what type of proof would you accpet ?
Even if the guy was on film saying he was OWS, people will say he was making that up.
Just like whenever they have a person cross a line, some people say they are not part of OWS.

When does someone become part of OWS ?

do you still feel "stop any type of protest" is a correct statement or do you need to revise it to "stop any type of non accpetable protest, or where the cops are afraid, etc. ?


semantics...whatever...right out of joker's handbook

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 03:24 PM

Looks like her shirt (what there was of it) got pulled up while she was resisting arrest. So she instigated trouble, got arrested and they carried her off, what's the problem?

Hardly the "cops pulling her shirt up and parading her down the street" you suggest.

So are you going to try and explain how you got the cops lifting her by her head out of the other video or answer the seizure question? Or just you just going to continue dancing away from your dishonesty?



right...no ability to pull her shirt back down...no problem with you at all...cops do no wrong. ever. you got it.

and just a little nudge, huh? watch that video again...how far off the sidewalk did that kid go? about a foot? 2 cross-checks for that? the second one was extremely forceful and possibly aimed at the face of the kid...you're off you rocker calling that a nudge.

you can keep bringing it up but i saw the vid from a different angle of the woman w the seizure and already said my mistake but i guess you feel the need to keep riding that one.

it really doesn't matter because you and your stupid little life are completely irrelevant and all you have is this message board to whine on. you are nothing but humor to me. why would i bother to take seriously the ONLY person on this message board that thinks it's ok to ban feeding homeless people? you really should just change your name to joke, since that's about all your presence here is...a big joke.

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 03:49 PM

right...no ability to pull her shirt back down...no problem with you at all...cops do no wrong. ever. you got it.

and just a little nudge, huh? watch that video again...how far off the sidewalk did that kid go? about a foot? 2 cross-checks for that? the second one was extremely forceful and possibly aimed at the face of the kid...you're off you rocker calling that a nudge.

you can keep bringing it up but i saw the vid from a different angle of the woman w the seizure and already said my mistake but i guess you feel the need to keep riding that one.

it really doesn't matter because you and your stupid little life are completely irrelevant and all you have is this message board to whine on. you are nothing but humor to me. why would i bother to take seriously the ONLY person on this message board that thinks it's ok to ban feeding homeless people? you really should just change your name to joke, since that's about all your presence here is...a big joke.

Who said they didn't have the ability to pull her shirt back down? I doubt that was a priority for them seeing how she was resisting arrest and they were trying to get control of her and then get her out of there safely. It's not as if she wasn't covered. It's just more whining.

Who said anything about a nudge? I never mentioned the word nudge at all, who's off their rocker? :lol:

There you go spouting shit again. You just can't discuss things honestly can you?


Let me guess, you can't find the vid that you saw from a different angle now, right? The one that showed them lifting her by her head. but wait, you then said her head was left dangling, but that's just not true either is it? Just another log in your huge pile of bull :shit:

Never said I think it's ok to ban feeding the homeless either.

You just don't live in reality anymore.

YOU son, are the real joke here.

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 05:05 PM

according to a recent article, If the OWS GA doesn't vote to approve an action, the person or action it is not part of the movement.

has any of the police violence been agaisnt any activity voted on by the OWS GA , or has it just been against individuals ?

http://blogs.village...wall_str_49.php

"It appears that individuals may have taken it upon themselves to express their outrage autonomously from any decision making body within OWS," an OWS spokesman tells the Voice. "For further comment, you should contact them directly - whoever they are."


Well, "they," according to the New York Police Department, are the OWS protesters who've been camped out in lower Manhattan for the last six months (in other words, the NYPD is linking the dumpings to the group, not just Amos). And we did contact them directly with the hopes that they'd either have the cojones to say "yeah, that was us," or the sense to say "we had nothing to do with this and we don't condone this type of behavior. Amos is a poor example of what the Occupy movement is really about."

Instead, the occupiers basically told us "we didn't take a formal vote to decide whether we should dump feces

and urine in public places, and we don't have an opinion either way about whether that's acceptable behavior."


how's the rewrite of the "stop all Protests' line coming along ?

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 06:00 PM

I think this thread is becoming a joke

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 06:08 PM

Becoming? I think that ship sailed awhile ago. Posted Image

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 06:25 PM

look more people pretending to be OWS,
this city is getting to the point where we just don't have the funds to even stop individuals that may have taken it upon themselves to express their outrage autonomously from any decision making body within OWS
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Occupy Wall Street protesters chained open emergency exit gates in six subway stations Wednesday morning, allowing riders to enter for free, sources said.
Fliers posted in the subway stations also called for “general strike” on May 1.
“No housework. No shopping. No banking. No school. No work,” one flier declared, using the symbols of the numbered lines to make a list.
The posters were professionally made and were designed in the style of MTA notices to riders.
A “communique” on Twitter from the “Rank and File Initiative” claimed activists chained open gates at more than 20 stations.
“This morning before rush hour, teams of activists, many from Occupy Wall Street, in conjunction with rank and file workers from the Transport Workers Union Local 100 and the Amalgamated Transit Union, opened up more than 20 stations across the city for free entry,” the statement said. “No property was damaged. Teams have chained open service gates and taped up turnstiles in a coordinated response to escalating service cuts, fare hikes, racist policing, assaults on transit workers’ working conditions and livelihoods — and the profiteering of the super-rich by way of a system they’ve rigged in their favor.”
Police and transit sources said thick chains with padlocks were discovered on the gates at the following stations: 135th St. on the No. 3 and 116th St. on the No. 6 in Manhattan; Halsey St. on the L, Ninth Ave. on the D and Carroll St. on the F in Brooklyn, and 65th St. on the R in Queens, sources said.
Police are investigating but have not made any arrests.
The first chained exit was discovered about 5 a.m. Most chains were cut and removed by 8:30 a.m., sources said.
Each gate was open for at least an hour, the sources said.
After the first discovery, transit staff and the police did a sweep through the subway system looking for others.
Transport Workers Union Local 100 is in contract negotiations with the Metropolitan Transportation Authority, which maintains its $16 billion budget has no extra dough for even cost-of-living increases.
Local 100 has come out in support of the OWS message that the working and middle classes have suffered because of the financial industry's excesses and fraud.
TWU Local 100 President John Samuelsen said his organization was not involved in the subway.
"We knew nothing about it," he said.
Occupy Wall Street protesters came to the MTA monthly board meeting at 9:30 a.m. Wednesday and complained about the agency letting the NYPD use city buses and drivers to transport those arrested at OWS protests like the March 17 gathering at Zuccotti Park in the Financial District.
"This has been a gross abuse of power and a gross abuse of public resources," protester Shaun Carire said, who was busted on St. Patrick’s Day.
MTA Chairman Joseph Lhota said he approves of providing such assistance to the NYPD determines is needed. Drivers who object can refuse as the Police Department has officers trained to drive buses, Lhota said after the board meeting.
The MTA and police regularly work together in emergency evacuations, he said, citing 9/11 and Hurricane Irene as examples of the agencies' history of working together.

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 06:39 PM

play your semantics games all you want...you didn't use the word nudge...so sorry

"I agree, however, in this case the cop seems to push the guy to the sidewalk rather than actually "hit" him"

"Who said they didn't have the ability to pull her shirt back down? I doubt that was a priority for them seeing how she was resisting arrest and they were trying to get control of her and then get her out of there safely. It's not as if she wasn't covered. It's just more whining."

16 year old carried down the street with her bra exposed...and you don't see a problem with that...you're a sick fuck

"Never said I think it's ok to ban feeding the homeless either."

go to the thread about banning feeding the homeless in public in philly...you and nikkiblue are the only ones defending the action

i have better things to do with my fucking time at work than to go searching for everything you want me to

you're a piece of shit and you're not worth my time any longer

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 06:40 PM

look more people pretending to be OWS,
this city is getting to the point where we just don't have the funds to even stop individuals that may have taken it upon themselves to express their outrage autonomously from any decision making body within OWS
THX1138'd





Occupy Wall Street protesters chained open emergency exit gates in six subway stations Wednesday morning, allowing riders to enter for free, sources said.
Fliers posted in the subway stations also called for “general strike” on May 1.
“No housework. No shopping. No banking. No school. No work,” one flier declared, using the symbols of the numbered lines to make a list.
The posters were professionally made and were designed in the style of MTA notices to riders.
A “communique” on Twitter from the “Rank and File Initiative” claimed activists chained open gates at more than 20 stations.
“This morning before rush hour, teams of activists, many from Occupy Wall Street, in conjunction with rank and file workers from the Transport Workers Union Local 100 and the Amalgamated Transit Union, opened up more than 20 stations across the city for free entry,” the statement said. “No property was damaged. Teams have chained open service gates and taped up turnstiles in a coordinated response to escalating service cuts, fare hikes, racist policing, assaults on transit workers’ working conditions and livelihoods — and the profiteering of the super-rich by way of a system they’ve rigged in their favor.”
Police and transit sources said thick chains with padlocks were discovered on the gates at the following stations: 135th St. on the No. 3 and 116th St. on the No. 6 in Manhattan; Halsey St. on the L, Ninth Ave. on the D and Carroll St. on the F in Brooklyn, and 65th St. on the R in Queens, sources said.
Police are investigating but have not made any arrests.
The first chained exit was discovered about 5 a.m. Most chains were cut and removed by 8:30 a.m., sources said.
Each gate was open for at least an hour, the sources said.
After the first discovery, transit staff and the police did a sweep through the subway system looking for others.
Transport Workers Union Local 100 is in contract negotiations with the Metropolitan Transportation Authority, which maintains its $16 billion budget has no extra dough for even cost-of-living increases.
Local 100 has come out in support of the OWS message that the working and middle classes have suffered because of the financial industry's excesses and fraud.
TWU Local 100 President John Samuelsen said his organization was not involved in the subway.
"We knew nothing about it," he said.
Occupy Wall Street protesters came to the MTA monthly board meeting at 9:30 a.m. Wednesday and complained about the agency letting the NYPD use city buses and drivers to transport those arrested at OWS protests like the March 17 gathering at Zuccotti Park in the Financial District.
"This has been a gross abuse of power and a gross abuse of public resources," protester Shaun Carire said, who was busted on St. Patrick’s Day.
MTA Chairman Joseph Lhota said he approves of providing such assistance to the NYPD determines is needed. Drivers who object can refuse as the Police Department has officers trained to drive buses, Lhota said after the board meeting.
The MTA and police regularly work together in emergency evacuations, he said, citing 9/11 and Hurricane Irene as examples of the agencies' history of working together.

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read about this and hell yeah i think it's fucking awesome...i hope nobody was pretending on this one

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 06:43 PM

aaaaaaand WOOHOO figured out the ignore list on new board :)

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 07:13 PM



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Posted 28 March 2012 - 07:15 PM

how's the rewrite of the "stop all Protests' line coming along ?

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 07:18 PM

really, use semantics all you want...you know what i'm talking about

is that really your best argument?

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 07:29 PM

symantics - argue ?

you make up stuff to furthur their adgenda - plain and simple.

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 08:02 PM

huh?

if you can't tell the difference between what the elite find as acceptable and unacceptable issues to protest, i don't know what to tell you

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 08:06 PM

please tell me again, how "all" means what the elite find as unacceptable issues to protest.

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 08:10 PM

play your semantics games all you want...you didn't use the word nudge...so sorry

"I agree, however, in this case the cop seems to push the guy to the sidewalk rather than actually "hit" him"

"Who said they didn't have the ability to pull her shirt back down? I doubt that was a priority for them seeing how she was resisting arrest and they were trying to get control of her and then get her out of there safely. It's not as if she wasn't covered. It's just more whining."

16 year old carried down the street with her bra exposed...and you don't see a problem with that...you're a sick fuck

"Never said I think it's ok to ban feeding the homeless either."

go to the thread about banning feeding the homeless in public in philly...you and nikkiblue are the only ones defending the action

i have better things to do with my fucking time at work than to go searching for everything you want me to

you're a piece of shit and you're not worth my time any longer


You can keep calling it semantics all you want but YOU are the one twisting words and accusing others of saying things they didn't say.

You're not sorry, if you were you wouldn't continually do it. If you want to accuse people of saying something why not use what they actually say rather than making shit up?

Why can't you just be honest?

I see no problem with the cops not stopping, while making an arrest in the middle of a hostile mob, to make sure someone who is resisting arrest is dressed properly. Hell, the shirt looks like one of those short ones that would expose her bra if she simply raised her hands.

I don't give a shit if you look it up or not the simple fact is I never said it was ok to ban feeding the homeless, you're lying again.



Of course I'm not worth your time, you don't have the time to make up excuses for all the bullshit I'm calling you on :lol:

Now why don't you just put me back on ignore again and you can pretend everything you say is true until others start calling you on it and then you can ignore them too.

Meantime we'll all sit around and wait for your next thread about how the board is going down hill with all the name calling.

#2047 TakeAStepBack

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 08:15 PM

Some real dude sweat going on in here.......

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 08:15 PM

symantics - argue ?

you make up stuff to furthur their adgenda - plain and simple.

Bingo, the sad part is I don't think he even realizes what he's doing.

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 08:26 PM

please tell me again, how "all" means what the elite find as unacceptable issues to protest.


is your only way to argue through semantics?

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 08:28 PM

TASB (or julius)...you guys have better understanding of these such things...how accurate is all of this?