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[mayfly]

only in MANTOWN !


OK I currently own a Sig 225 in 9mm pistol and a Rem 870 12 gauge Defender 8 round shotgun for home defense.

The NRA has me concerned that their may be some tightening up of firearm legislation in the near future and too many of my friends are throwing around acronyms like SHTF (shit hits the fan) and WROL (without rule of law) so i am shopping assualt rifles.

Have it narrowed down to a Colt 6520 A2 Carbine (currently priced at $900) or a Sig 556 Classic (currently at $1100). Maybe a Sig 556 Swat

I like the Colts obvious reliability and availability of replacement parts / accessories and it's $200 cheaper ( more ammo ) but the Sig has the side folding collapsable stock which makes it really compact, the Swat collapses down to 26" and both have Sigs have the Picatinny rail for accessories, light, laser etc...

The Colt has a 16" light barrel and the whole gun weighs 5.8 lbs and the Sig has a military grade hammer forged barrel.


Discuss......

[haloofroses]

I LIKE CHEESE!

[TEO]

I know nothing about Sig thus I'd go with Colt, reliability in a gun is paramount.

[Jim]

The hell with the NRA... we're preparing for the alien invasion in 2012

[mayfly]

well after watching these vids about the Sig in 7.62 I too believe Colt is the better option and parts availability and familiarity are additional benefits. Just have to find a good priced one in my configuration. Collapsible stock, heavy barrel preferable cold forged - parkerized would be a bonus


Sig 7.62 jamming / misfiring vids : http://www.survivali...ad.php?t=159791

[mayfly]

http://www.tacticalo...utomatic/Detail

[mayfly]

A little update - I picked up a nice little S&W M&P 15-22. Shoots .22LR which I can buy online for $0.02 per round. Accurate little fucker too. Weighs only 6 pounds, collapsible stock full picatinny quad rail, flash supressor and 25 round mags. Buds had them on sale for $422 shipped, nice gun for plinking, shooting paper all day cheaply or for kids to learn with.

I decided I want an AR-10 in 7.62 NATO so there wasn't much of a reason to pick up a .223 and the 7.62 so I opted for one on either side of the M4. Now to find a really good deal on the AR-10

[cdrhead]

I never renewed my pistol permit and sold all my hand guns. I've been kicking around the idea of some sort of shotgun for protection...not that I REALLY need it here...but it's good to be prepared for the unexpected.

[mayfly]

...but it's good to be prepared for the unexpected.

...EXACTLY

[Roasted and Toasted]

anyone in here ever shoot a Benelli Super 90 M4?
Tried one out last week, definitely saving my pennies and reserving a spot in the rack for one.

http://www.gunslot.c...images/4058.jpg
(sorry, can't get image to upload)

[mayfly]

Benelli makes a really sweet shorgun I never shot the M4 but I have shot other 12 gauges, really smooth action - which you pay for. Right now till 12/31 Remington has a $30 rebate on their shotguns, the syn stock 8 shot 870 can be had for 259 after rebate and is just as reliable . Most LEO's have Remingtons, the M4 is usually SWAT / CERT team or military use.

[BHB]

4,000 views.... weird.

[mayfly]

my XMAS present to myself - a sweet little .22 LR pocket pistol. I like the feel of the grip - staggered double row magazine for a bigger gun feel but super small profile and weight. here's the wiki

http://en.wikipedia....etta_21A_Bobcat

[TEO]

Mine is this color:




No worries, I am wearing nothing underneath the sheets.

[mayfly]

I picked up the matte black finish also, fits nicely in that garter holster doesn't it ?

I love the 18 inch flame that shoots out the barrel at night with stinger loads

[TEO]

I have yet to try that. Received the gun as a gift greater than 10 years ago.

[Tim the Beek]

Good little guns, those Berettas.

Back before I thinned the herd significantly, I had a Tomcat. Felt a little more comfortable having a centerfire round with a somewhat larger bullet.

[MeOmYo]

picked up a remington model 788 carbine in .243

[Julius]

Look at all the views on this thread! someone is watching you.

[MeOmYo]

a couple years ago the local paper printed a list of all the pistol permit holders in the county. people were all pissy and thought it would start of rash of home invasions looking for pistols. I at the thought of someone intentionally breaking into a house where they KNOW there are guns. Seems irrational even for a criminal.

[lightningbolt1]

Ive been co sidering a Glock 357 magnum.. they come new with 2 magazines for like 500$..

[Tim the Beek]

I'm not a big fan of plastic, but if you're going that route, it's worth checking out the Springfield Armory XD line...back when I was more "gun nut," and less someone who just wants to have the proper tools around, I had one in .45 acp. Much preferred it to any of the Glocks I've fired, and I liked that it had a grip safety...something Glocks lack.

Don't know, though, if it's available in .357 Sig, if that's a caliber you're really stuck on.

[MeOmYo]

the XD will be considerably more expensive. probably double. glocks are extremely reliable, light and reasonably priced. if you're going to carry it, the glock would be the way to go. if you're going to target shoot and will keep it in good shape, the XD may be a better option. they hold/increase their value much better than the glocks but it probably depends on how much you want to spend.

why 357 magnum? ballistically it's a pretty inefficient and expensive round.

[Smiles]

Anyone seen these new super soakers? Pretty lame if you ask me. They require 4 AA batteries and I doubt they get the range of the classic pump pressure guns. Why would you want a gun that needs batteries?

My favorite is the classic Larami Super Soaker 100. 50ft range, decent soaking power and badass design. Gun is pretty top-heavy when filled but thats the price you pay for capacity. While the 200 and 300 offer more capacity and slightly better streams, they look goofy as shit and are too heavy.

[Tim the Beek]

the XD will be considerably more expensive. probably double. glocks are extremely reliable, light and reasonably priced. if you're going to carry it, the glock would be the way to go. if you're going to target shoot and will keep it in good shape, the XD may be a better option. they hold/increase their value much better than the glocks but it probably depends on how much you want to spend...

why 357 magnum? ballistically it's a pretty inefficient and expensive round.

Still think it's gotta be .357 Sig. And I wouldn't own a gun chambered in it. I have a revolver in .357, but probably wouldn't if I couldn't put much cheaper .38 spl through it as well.

And paying extra for a tool that works better and feels safer to me is my preference, but it's all pretty subjective.

[china cat]

Still think it's gotta be .357 Sig. And I wouldn't own a gun chambered in it. I have a revolver in .357, but probably wouldn't if I couldn't put much cheaper .38 spl through it as well. And paying extra for a tool that works better and feels safer to me is my preference, but it's all pretty subjective.

that's totally hot.

please whisper such things in my ear next time we're alone

[deadheadskier]

that's totally hot. please whisper such things in my ear next time we're alone

yeah

well I got a double barrel bazooka

just sayin'

[china cat]

I just took my pistol/revolver certification yesterday. watch out mo fo's

[TakeAStepBack]

Nice!

I've got Fran ready to get certified n shet.

[MeOmYo]

Still think it's gotta be .357 Sig. And I wouldn't own a gun chambered in it. I have a revolver in .357, but probably wouldn't if I couldn't put much cheaper .38 spl through it as well. And paying extra for a tool that works better and feels safer to me is my preference, but it's all pretty subjective.

Agreed, I meant .357 sig and yes, all depends on what you're doing with it.

I just won a Remington 870 in a raffle from a rod & gun club. pumping a shotgun is for the birds, gonna sell it.

[Tim the Beek]

I just won a Remington 870 in a raffle from a rod & gun club. pumping a shotgun is for the birds, gonna sell it.

Wingmaster or Express, how long a barrel, 12 or 20 ga, and do you live in CT?

[TakeAStepBack]

Put a speed feed pistol grip on it and use it for home defense.

[Tim the Beek]

...use it for home defense.

Why do you think I'm askin' about barrel length?

Long story, but I'm waiting on a shorter barrel to come, because I sold my Win Defender a while back to someone who needed it more than I did at the time, and would like my 870 to be shorter than it is.

But if I could buy one with a shorter barrel...I might wanna pass it or my other one with the new shorter barrel along to someone.

Would skip the pistol grip myself, but again, personal preference.

[MeOmYo]

it's an express with a 28" barrel, screw in chokes

It was a free gun to me but realistically, I'm never going to use it and it will just take up space in the safe.

[TakeAStepBack]

Nice, Tim. Yeah, I "would" use a pistol grip and smaller barrel due to shooting quarters *should* it ever be necessary...if it were, ya know, a need. Swinging a stick is less than optimum for me in such an event.

[MeOmYo]

the raffle was at a turkey shoot, so it's set up for turkey hunting.

[Tim the Beek]

Sent you a PM MeOmYo.

I've been saving up for a phased plasma rifle in the 40-watt range, but if it worked for both of us, rigging up another boomstick might be ok too.

[Roasted and Toasted]

. Would skip the pistol grip myself, but again, personal preference.

18"barrel, and youth sized stock for a short LOP makes for a easily maneuvered weapon in close quarters. Currently have a 12 ga.mossberg 400 set up that way.
I personally favor the 870, but wanted and ambidextrous safety location as my wife is left handed.

[Tim the Beek]

Pistol grips...too wristy.

Changed out the barrel on my 870 to 18.5". I guess the 4 round mag isn't entirely ideal, but I have to figure that if 4 isn't enough, 7 prolly wouldn't be.

Plus, the AR with 30 Ranger soft tips in it is pretty a pretty good BUG...

Next up, moving a certain someone up from being comfortable with 22lr to 20ga...

[TEO]

Picked this up a couple days ago.

[MeOmYo]

.357?

[TEO]

Taurus Public Defender - The Judge

Takes 45s and .410s.

[TEO]

Far less recoil than a .357.

[MeOmYo]

Sweet. Haven't shot one of those yet.

[Tim the Beek]

Far less recoil than a .357.

Really? Have you tried it with .410 shells? That thing always sounded like a wrist-breaker to me...

[TEO]

Those are on deck for this week, splitting a case of them with my Dad.

(Yes, he is so excited by this gun he is getting one too.)

[Tim the Beek]

Do you know what sort of loads the .45s were? Some of the cowboy-style loads are pretty mild.

I had a heckuva fun time yesterday killing cans with some boardies I know. Hadn't shot my .223 in quite a while, and had forgotten how loud that round is.

Impressive fireball at the wrong end of it too.

[TEO]

Oh my! Not off hand, will check and get back to you on that.

[Tim the Beek]

By wrong end, I meant the little hole. Wrong end if you're in front of it. No one was. TtRangemaster'd

[MeOmYo]

Do you know what sort of loads the .45s were? Some of the cowboy-style loads are pretty mild.

I had a lesson in pistol rounds a few years ago after purchasing a Ruger .44 magnum for hunting. I bought 100 rounds with the gun and after putting ~75 rounds through it, I still couldn't hit the broad side of a barn and was ready to throw the damn thing in a ditch. I called a neighbor that hunts with one and he came over with a bunch of different reloads and informed me that some pistol rounds are loaded for rifles too with more powder. The more powder in hotter rounds will not allow you to get consistency out of a pistol barrell. So after many a frustrating sight in sessions and over $100 in wasted ammo, I can hit holes at 20 yards, open sights and on a rest.

I would asume there are hot .45 rounds out there too as there are .45 rifles.