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Poll: NY Times Poll (14 member(s) have cast votes)

What was the greatest Grateful Dead show... EVER?

  1. Fillmore East - New York, NY - Feb 13-14 1970 (1 votes [5.26%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 5.26%

  2. Harpur College - Binghamton, NY - May 7 1970 (4 votes [21.05%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 21.05%

  3. Old Renaissance Faire Grounds - Veteta, OR - Aug 27 1972 (4 votes [21.05%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 21.05%

  4. Barton Hall - Ithaca, NY - May 8 1977 (8 votes [42.11%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 42.11%

  5. All of the above (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  6. None of the above (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  7. Pene y la Cuchaca (2 votes [10.53%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 10.53%

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#1 Jim

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 01:23 AM

NY Times Vote for "The Greatest Show Ever"    

 

http://www.nytimes.c...-vote.html?_r=0

 

 

The Greatest Show Ever?
The Dead -- including four remaining members of the Grateful Dead -- returns to the stage this year, starting its 2009 tour on April 12 in Greensboro, N.C. Since the Grateful Dead formed in 1965, it has inspired an obsessive following, and fans continue to debate which of the original band's 2,350 or so shows was the best. These concerts are considered to be among the top contenders. Tell us which one you think is greatest, and why. And if you disagree entirely -- with these choices, or with the notion of a single-best show, tour, year or era -- comment here–Ben Ratliff
 

 

Interesting how 3 of the 4 NY Times choices were from NY



#2 Tabbooma

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 11:27 AM

Barton :)



#3 In A Silent Way

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 11:54 AM

Royal is the ultimate authority on assigning rankings.

#4 PieDoh

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 01:40 PM

harpur...

#5 seany

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 02:12 PM

The question is fundamentally flawed. Best show EVER? And they've already narrowed it down to 4 (good) choices?  Even if they left it an open poll, it'd be impossible to answer. Too many variables on any given day ;)



#6 MeOmYo

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 02:13 PM

but you can vote differently every day if you wish :wink:



#7 VSCT

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 02:25 PM

watkins?



#8 Terrapin Station

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 02:26 PM

I like the Barton show personally out of that list, then the Fillmore a close 2nd.  :cassady:



#9 In A Silent Way

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 03:26 PM

Best show from 1969-1970?

Best show from 1972-1973?

Best show from 1977?

Best show from the Brent era, pre-coma?

Best show from the Brent era, post-coma?

Best show from the 199 ....  I can't even say it. :lol:



#10 Jim

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 04:06 PM

Best show from 1969-1970?

Best show from 1972-1973?

Best show from 1977?

Best show from the Brent era, pre-coma?

Best show from the Brent era, post-coma?

Best show from the 199 ....  I can't even say it. :lol:

I'm with you.

this is just the NY Times attempting to engage social social media, and those who might still be reading the NYTs... albeit too late!

 

I tend to think that the Brent era shows were better, likely just because I saw many more of those live and had other good memories associated with them.



#11 williscat2000

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 04:18 PM

venetta, hands down



#12 fin_fang_foom

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 04:20 PM

Now I know I am in the minority here, but I think 1977 is overrated.  I know, I know, you can hang me by my thumbs at the Vibes, but hear me out.  For many of us, the very first "pristine" tapes we had were those Betty boards from '77, so they got played a lot.  I mean A LOT and subsequently the sentimentality factor is high for that year.  However, in listening back now, I find the tempos to be soooo sloooow with the two drummers in comparison to what came before in the '72-'74 era, and the playing to be pretty sloppy in comparison too.   That doesn't mean there aren't some gems...of course Barton Hall, along with 5/7, 5/9 and 5/21 - May was a good month, but for my tastes, I just don't fall over myself for 1977.

 

Take it with a grain of salt... this is coming from someone who enjoys PV90 (pre-Vince) as my second favorite era - next to the aforementioned '72-'74, so WTF do I know?



#13 Depends

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 04:28 PM

Good point.   Although the Betty boards are really good, in my mind, the 71-74 is the best era, with fall '73 at the top of that era. 

From this list, I would go with Venetta



#14 williscat2000

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 04:33 PM

I am totally biased towards 72-74 with no mickey hart and 68-69 primal dead.

 

That being said, I leaped into the meadowlands 89 shows- HOLY Shit. Not sure what happened between 77 and 89, but Garcia is ON FIRE, the whole band is completely going nuts, and its some of the most ferocious playing I have every heard. Weir is on FIRE, at points I thought weir was actually Jerry.

 

almost complete hyper overdrive, firing on all cylinders but totally dialed in. Anyway- Up until a few days ago, I pretty much dismissed late era dead, but now I am THRILLED to have a whole another 1000 shows or so I can dig..



#15 PieDoh

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 04:53 PM

best show is the one everyone raved about that you didn't go to....

#16 In A Silent Way

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 05:03 PM

Now I know I am in the minority here, but I think 1977 is overrated. 

 

You're in big trouble, mister!

 

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#17 musicfan

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 05:28 PM

I voted for Venetta...   Love that show !



#18 Speckta

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 05:37 PM

I have :

 

  • February 11th 1970 - Fillmore East (with Duane Allman)
  • August 7th 1972 - The Field trip
  • May 8th 1977 - Barton Hall

 

So, I feel I'm at a disadvantage because I've only heard 1 of the 4 options.

Which also means, I'm now going to have to track down the other three. Any chance the SDBs are available on archive?

 

EDIT: Also, Fillmore East - New York, NY - Feb 13-14 1970 isn't that 2 shows?

 

Second edit: Turns out Feb 13 '70 is AKA Dick's Picks Vol 4. I totally have that. Third edit.... I totally THOUGHT I had that.....



#19 Speckta

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 05:47 PM

Also, are we sure it's May 7 1970 on Harpur College? Because Dick's Picks 8 is May 2 1970 at Harpur College...



#20 Speckta

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 05:54 PM

And.. lastly, this is the show we're talking about, right?

1972-08-27 Old Renaissance Faire Grounds - Veteta, OR - Aug 27 1972

https://archive.org/...milton.152.shnf



#21 williscat2000

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 05:58 PM

And.. lastly, this is the show we're talking about, right?

1972-08-27 Old Renaissance Faire Grounds - Veteta, OR - Aug 27 1972

https://archive.org/...milton.152.shnf

 Oh yes, thats the one. the only one. the entire thing is on video. Search "sunshine daydream" on you tube. the enitre show is there. HOLY MACKERAL I HAVE TO WATCH THIS TONIGHT



#22 VSCT

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 06:05 PM

And.. lastly, this is the show we're talking about, right?

1972-08-27 Old Renaissance Faire Grounds - Veteta, OR - Aug 27 1972

https://archive.org/...milton.152.shnf

 

You should have this, cause I have it.



#23 Depends

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 06:08 PM

I have :

 

  • February 11th 1970 - Fillmore East (with Duane Allman)
  • August 7th 1972 - The Field trip
  • May 8th 1977 - Barton Hall

 

So, I feel I'm at a disadvantage because I've only heard 1 of the 4 options.

Which also means, I'm now going to have to track down the other three. Any chance the SDBs are available on archive?

 

EDIT: Also, Fillmore East - New York, NY - Feb 13-14 1970 isn't that 2 shows?

 

Second edit: Turns out Feb 13 '70 is AKA Dick's Picks Vol 4. I totally have that. Third edit.... I totally THOUGHT I had that.....

Feb 13 -14 is actually 4 shows.  Fillmore always had early/late shows



#24 Speckta

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 06:12 PM

You should have this, cause I have it.

 

I had the video (haven't had a chance to watch it yet). I didn't realize it was that date / location.

Now I have the audio too =)
 

 

Feb 13 -14 is actually 4 shows.  Fillmore always had early/late shows


Even worse then. How is the NY Times going to put up 4 shows as "the best of all time." It just doesn't make sense. If Chewbacca lives on Andor, you must acquit.



#25 Depends

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 06:18 PM

I had the video (haven't had a chance to watch it yet). I didn't realize it was that date / location.

Now I have the audio too =)
 

 


Even worse then. How is the NY Times going to put up 4 shows as "the best of all time." It just doesn't make sense. If Chewbacca lives on Andor, you must acquit.

Plus there was a 2/11 fillmore show.  make that 2 shows.



#26 fin_fang_foom

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 06:22 PM

You're in big trouble, mister!

 

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Heh, I knows it...  Wait until Tabbooma gets a read of those comments.  NO PIG FOR YOU!



#27 Speckta

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 06:23 PM

I have at least one of the 2/11 shows. The one where Duane Allman shows up.

Also.. I totally did have the tracks for 1972-08-27. I just had it labeled "The Field Trip" instead of "Sunshine Daydream" or "Old Renaissance Faire Grounds"



#28 fin_fang_foom

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 06:27 PM

Heh, I knows it...  Wait until Tabbooma gets a read of those comments.  NO PIG FOR YOU!

 

Also, Uncle Jesse from Dukes of Hazzard > Uncle Jesse from Full House.

 

Chew on that one Boardiez!



#29 Julius

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 06:42 PM

I'd never seen the Cornell show labeled as "Barton Hall" until recently. I guess to most of us one building at Cornell is much like any other.  But nevertheless, that's the one!



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Posted 16 May 2013 - 06:46 PM

 Oh yes, thats the one. the only one. the entire thing is on video. Search "sunshine daydream" on you tube. the enitre show is there. HOLY MACKERAL I HAVE TO WATCH THIS TONIGHT

 

Well the whole show isnt included on "sunshine daydream" but a good portion of is out there... I've had the VHS since back in the day... 



#31 Deadshow Dan

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 04:58 AM

I'd never seen the Cornell show labeled as "Barton Hall" until recently. I guess to most of us one building at Cornell is much like any other.  But nevertheless, that's the one!

Questions about Barton Hall, which was used as a hangar in WW2, and has housed ROTC 'forever' are accepted.

 

I can even tell you about Col. Barton ;)