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[vic]

Exactly!

glad ya know:wink:

[Me and Mr. T]

glad ya know:wink:

I wish you did.

[vic]

Awesome to insinuate naivity without offering anything as far as an explanation goes.

Or were you simply twice bitten because the second part of the statement is spot on?

Two things:
~ the death of Bin Laden, if true (prolly true prolly), changes nothing as far as terrorism is concerned. It is not a victory in any way shape or form.
~it is actually bad. As it will ramp up terror watch and make people feel less secure and more willing to buy lies for more war/rights removal. Giving creedence to the entire "war on terror" and furthering the agenda.

This is simply Obrahma's Ace of spades in an upcoming election season.

9/11 was an inside job.

i like this guy

[seany]

Are you as tired of the complacence as I am, vic?

I'm sure we'll never get the full story behind 9/11 and even if we did it would not satisfy many, including you and Vic. You're far too invested - rightly or wrongly - in massive conspiracy theories at this point to accept any explanations coming from the government, news organizations, or elsewhere. Seriously: Who would you actually believe?

That said, what gain is there to be had (right now) for faking the death of bin Laden? So the whole Navy SEAL story is bogus and never happened? Or we just flew an illegal mission into Pakistan and crashed a helicopter and shot up the place and supposedly killed a few people for show? And reported to the world? Don't you think the GOP leaders would be eager to tear this apart and impeach the president if they had doubts? You think Bush and Dick Cheney would be congratulating the Obama administration? There seems to be far too much to lose and little to win to pull a stunt like that. If they were going to "wag the dog" - do it closer to the election.

[Rionach aka Spec K]

[vic]

I wish you did.

nothing you've said, here or on facebook, has any more substance than derpa der ter tumpa teetily dumb

have no argument? google a tinfoil hat:lol:

[Me and Mr. T]

nothing you've said, here or on facebook, has any more substance than derpa der ter tumpa teetily dumb

have no argument? google a tinfoil hat:lol:

Or change your picture to building 7 on facebook

[vic]

Or change your picture to building 7 on facebook

or america fuck yeah

[alsoa]

Are you as tired of the complacence as I am, vic?

If only there was someone around here to remind us how complacent we are, multiple times, daily. Sigh, if only.

[vic]

I'm sure we'll never get the full story behind 9/11 and even if we did it would not satisfy many, including you and Vic. You're far too invested - rightly or wrongly - in massive conspiracy theories at this point to accept any explanations coming from the government, news organizations, or elsewhere. Seriously: Who would you actually believe?

That said, what gain is there to be had (right now) for faking the death of bin Laden? So the whole Navy SEAL story is bogus and never happened? Or we just flew an illegal mission into Pakistan and crashed a helicopter and shot up the place and supposedly killed a few people for show? And reported to the world? Don't you think the GOP leaders would be eager to tear this apart and impeach the president if they had doubts? You think Bush and Dick Cheney would be congratulating the Obama administration? There seems to be far too much to lose and little to win to pull a stunt like that. If they were going to "wag the dog" - do it closer to the election.

there are frustrations on many many areas right now in this country...obama's approval rating is below 50...osama bin harvey oswald has become an afterthought and people are not happy with how long this war is going on...it's a good time to show some accomplishment to be able to further push the war machine on...closer to election would seem way too convenient

[TakeAStepBack]

I'm sure we'll never get the full story behind 9/11 and even if we did it would not satisfy many, including you and Vic. You're far too invested - rightly or wrongly - in massive conspiracy theories at this point to accept any explanations coming from the government, news organizations, or elsewhere. Seriously: Who would you actually believe?

That said, what gain is there to be had (right now) for faking the death of bin Laden? So the whole Navy SEAL story is bogus and never happened? Or we just flew an illegal mission into Pakistan and crashed a helicopter and shot up the place and supposedly killed a few people for show? And reported to the world? Don't you think the GOP leaders would be eager to tear this apart and impeach the president if they had doubts? You think Bush and Dick Cheney would be congratulating the Obama administration? There seems to be far too much to lose and little to win to pull a stunt like that. If they were going to "wag the dog" - do it closer to the election.

I'm already pretty confident in my belief of 9/11/2001. I'm simply sitting back and waiting for the slow peel back of the technology used in the event. I really dont need anyone to admit anything at this point. It will be a cold day in hell before that ever happens anyway. I dont deal in conspiracy theory, i deal in conspiracy fact.


I dont think the death of Bin Laden is fake.
I question the integrity of how we're learning about it, and the implications of that observation. I tend to question people that lie to me over and over again. Taking anything I'm told with a grain of salt, is my policy.

It wouldn't be the first time we crashed a party for an agenda.

I really dont think Bush, Cheney and Obrahma are on different teams. They're all bought and paid for by the same interests. So a high five for the team is a high five for the team.

[vic]

If only there was someone around here to remind us how complacent we are, multiple times, daily. Sigh, if only.

well, he's right

[seany]

there are frustrations on many many areas right now in this country...obama's approval rating is below 50...osama bin harvey oswald has become an afterthought and people are not happy with how long this war is going on...it's a good time to show some accomplishment to be able to further push the war machine on...closer to election would seem way too convenient

So are you going with the whole thing is bs or there's a chance that it actually happened?

[Me and Mr. T]

or america fuck yeah

LOL! Yeah because I'm proud to be American which you should be too. Do you actually know ANYONE that was in the towers? If you did maybe you'd feel a little different.

[staggerlee024]

This is simply Obrahma's Ace of spades in an upcoming election season.

9/11 was an inside job.

[hoagie]

and now, back to your regularly scheduled boardie debate...

[vic]

So are you going with the whole thing is bs or there's a chance that it actually happened?

who knows...i have my doubts...dump the body at sea? of one of the most wanted men in american history? no autopsy? kinda like how they shipped off all the parts of the ground zero site
http://911research.w...ro/cleanup.html

who knows...i'm not gonna be walkin around the city with a flag being blindly patriotic today though i can tell you that much

one thing i don't believe...that the people who orchestrated 9/11 have met justice

[vic]

LOL! Yeah because I'm proud to be American which you should be too. Do you actually know ANYONE that was in the towers? If you did maybe you'd feel a little different.

how does that validate your argument?

[Me and Mr. T]

how does that validate your argument?

Answer the question.

[jnjn]

[quote name='halfstar']I just don

[Pher]

Why isn't there any pics of his dead corpse, just said was buried at sea????? They should have brought him to ground zero and hung him up so family victimes could smack him like a pinyata

[TakeAStepBack]

Somehow I knew this was going to ramp up the 9/11 talks all over again.

Those who don't like what i have to say should feel free to put me on ignore and do just that.
Rolling your eyes, slinging insult or pulling emotional cards in a debate will not work with me. I've spent far too many years being ridiculed and belittled because I refuse to pay homage to a blantant lie. if you want to debate the facts surrounding the event, there's a thread I started regarding the topic. I'm happy to discuss it there.

[Deadshow Dan]

Awesome to insinuate naivity without offering anything as far as an explanation goes.

Or were you simply twice bitten because the second part of the statement is spot on?

ummmmm, dude, I do have to work for a living

[Deadshow Dan]

Why isn't there any pics of his dead corpse, just said was buried at sea????? They should have brought him to ground zero and hung him up so family victimes could smack him like a pinyata

Reports are that they are deciding how to provide the evidence photographic and otherwise. DNA tests will take a little while.

Obviously the photos might be rather gruesome.

[Deadshow Dan]

TaSB,

It would be naive to say terrorism is over because bin Laden is dead, and it would be naive to say it changes nothing.

Do you really think this has ZERO impact on Al Qaeda? Zero impact on morale? Zero impact on the political realities in withdrawing from Afghanistan?

[hoagie]

Obviously the photos might be rather gruesome.

im sure all the fans of Saw 1 - 6 will be able to handle it.

[Deadshow Dan]

im sure all the fans of Saw 1 - 6 will be able to handle it.

and I"m sure they'll take that into account (whatever Saw 1-6 , I can guess I suppose) as well as those who aren't fans.

[In A Silent Way]

[quote name='halfstar']I just don

[Pher]

Reports are that they are deciding how to provide the evidence photographic and otherwise. DNA tests will take a little while.

Obviously the photos might be rather gruesome.

They just said on news DNA reports said it was Osama, kind of quick for DNA results????

[halfstar]

#1 of dead body with Fluffhead sign or nams. Obvs.

[halfstar]

They just said on news DNA reports said it was Osama, kind of quick for DNA results????

things move a lot more quicklier under water.

[In A Silent Way]

#1 of dead body with Randy Savage or nams. Obvs.

fix'd

[Deadshow Dan]

They just said on news DNA reports said it was Osama, kind of quick for DNA results????

Normally yes.

I'm really not familiar with how long the tests actually take, versus how long it normally takes to get results.

[TakeAStepBack]

TaSB,

It would be naive to say terrorism is over because bin Laden is dead, and it would be naive to say it changes nothing.

Do you really think this has ZERO impact on Al Qaeda? Zero impact on morale? Zero impact on the political realities in withdrawing from Afghanistan?

I never said terrorism is over because Bin Laden is claimed dead. What I said was in reference to the allegiance to the cause as seen in the article I posted above the quote in question. I find it funny how much we claim to know about Al-Qaeda, but we cant manage to stomp out their ranks....

I don't see any reality of withdraw from afghanistan. I can see a shift in which country our troops are in though. Obama even said it last night. We're still gonna be gearing up to fight the war on terror at home and abroad.

[Phishfolk]

[jnjn]

hard to believe he received a proper islamic burial w/o some tribal/religious leaders or pakistani govt officials to vouch for it all

& i'm calling straight bullshit right now if they're claiming dna results already (presuming he was killed less than 48 hrs ago)

[halfstar]

We killed him, threw dead body in ocean, ran dna test to confirm identity. /thread

Lols. Sure thing, government. You think I am that dum, moran? Your so dum. ZOMG. Lols. KYS.

[TakeAStepBack]

[Condormania]

Just a reminder: facts are required to make a coherent argument. Hunches and suspicions are not the same as facts. Carry on.

[TakeAStepBack]

Just a reminder: facts are required to make a coherent argument. Hunches and suspicions are not the same as facts. Carry on.

Under that logic we have to throw this whole thread out though.

[Uncle Coulro]

i'm calling straight bullshit right now if they're claiming dna results already (presuming he was killed less than 48 hrs ago)

Basic profiling with state-of-the art hand-held equipment requires only a few hours, these days. The reason most criminal DNA test results take so long to receive is case backlog. Backlog was not a problem for the highest-visibility manhunt in US history.

[Me and Mr. T]

Just a reminder: facts are required to make a coherent argument. Hunches and suspicions are not the same as facts. Carry on.

Yeah, but I read it on the interwebs therefore it is fact.

[seany]

I think it's reasonable to take any official story with a grain of salt.

Is he dead? Prolly. But I wouldn't be surprised if we still had the body, but said we buried him in accordance with Islamic traditions. Some people are going to be pissed and retaliate anyway, but if we didn't say that there might be even more. Burn a Koran over here and violence erupts there. Kill their "spiritual" leader and then admit that we purposely ignored their religion and kept the body - that sounds like a recipe for just inciting them more.

[Condormania]

Under that logic we have to throw this whole thread out though.

Just most of the stuff you and Vic are writing, really.

Basic profiling with state-of-the art hand-held equipment requires only a few hours, these days. The reason most criminal DNA test results take so long to receive is case backlog. Backlog was not a problem for the highest-visibility manhunt in US history.

This.

Yeah, but I read it on the interwebs therefore it is fact.

Of course...because internet blogs written by conspiracy whack-jobs are the most reliable source of information.

I think it's reasonable to take any official story with a grain of salt.

Is he dead? Prolly. But I wouldn't be surprised if we still had the body, but said we buried him in accordance with Islamic traditions. Some people are going to be pissed and retaliate anyway, but if we didn't say that there might be even more. Burn a Koran over here and violence erupts there. Kill their "spiritual" leader and then admit that we purposely ignored their religion and kept the body - that sounds like a recipe for just inciting them more.

That is my take on it. Why do so many people get upset when we don't behave like the enemy does?

[TakeAStepBack]

Just most of the stuff you and Vic are writing, really.This.

Of course...because internet blogs written by conspiracy whack-jobs are the most reliable source of information.

That is my take on it. Why do so many people get upset when we don't behave like the enemy does?

Such as?

[jnjn]

I think it's reasonable to take any official story with a grain of salt.

Is he dead? Prolly. But I wouldn't be surprised if we still had the body, but said we buried him in accordance with Islamic traditions. Some people are going to be pissed and retaliate anyway, but if we didn't say that there might be even more. Burn a Koran over here and violence erupts there. Kill their "spiritual" leader and then admit that we purposely ignored their religion and kept the body - that sounds like a recipe for just inciting them more.

definitely

[Condormania]

Such as?

Oh, come now...don't be coy.

[TakeAStepBack]

"9/11 was an inside job." was my only hunch or suspicion related statement.

This whole thread however, in built on the same level of hunch and suspicion. I don't see a picture of Bin Laden. We're being forced to take peoples word on it.



I usually never settle until physical evidence can be kang'd.

[vic]

Answer the question.

ok...no.

now answer mine

[vic]

if you want to debate the facts surrounding the event, there's a thread I started regarding the topic. I'm happy to discuss it there.

can't find it?