Loaded language poisons gun debate
#1
Posted 31 January 2013 - 08:29 PM
#4
Posted 31 January 2013 - 09:29 PM
Gun debate is important but....in the 2012 presidential debates not asingle question was asked of the candidates about arguably the most
important issue facing the world, climate change. Distraction Politics.
The world is made up of 196 countries.
Why would question to candidates to run one of these countries matter? Yeah we have a lot of influence and pull. Say the US became the most green country in the world today. Just say we removed our dependence on oil today.
That said, what should the US do about the other 195 countries in the world? With China probably being the biggest offender?
#7
Posted 31 January 2013 - 09:43 PM
Now who the F is going to register anything with shit like that in there.
I'm in no way against fair and logical legislation but it has to be reasonable.
#8
Posted 31 January 2013 - 09:44 PM
#9
Posted 31 January 2013 - 09:45 PM
Interesting tidbit on the new weapons registration law in NY. Upon registration of a weapon requiring registration, you are giving consent for your home to be searched at any time and for any reason.
Now who the F is going to register anything with shit like that in there.
I'm in no way against fair and logical legislation but it has to be reasonable.
This is why Cuomo has been getting a lot of heat for his passing of this law.
#11
Posted 31 January 2013 - 09:52 PM
This is why Cuomo has been getting a lot of heat for his passing of this law.
As he should. Make legal people register them, fine, whatever the hell that does, fine. Give up your 4th ammendment right upon doing it, Fuck you.
Making law abiding people criminals.
#16
Posted 01 February 2013 - 12:09 AM
Interesting tidbit on the new weapons registration law in NY. Upon registration of a weapon requiring registration, you are giving consent for your home to be searched at any time and for any reason.
Now who the F is going to register anything with shit like that in there.
I'm in no way against fair and logical legislation but it has to be reasonable.
If this is true, it's total bullshit.
While I don't like the extremism of the NRA (more conciliatory spokespeople would be a start), I could say the same about PETA and the ACLU but... I'm still grateful these organizations have some social/political clout and act as watchdogs and advocates.
#18
Posted 01 February 2013 - 05:18 PM
As he should. Make legal people register them, fine, whatever the hell that does, fine. Give up your 4th ammendment right upon doing it, Fuck you.
Making law abiding people criminals.
Yup. That's the sentiment I'm hearing. This law is ultimately going to be challenged and reps in NY better get ready for a serious fight, or plan to loose their seats next election. Upstate NY is full of hunters who aren't going to take this sitting down.
#19
Posted 01 February 2013 - 06:05 PM
If this is true, it's total bullshit.
While I don't like the extremism of the NRA (more conciliatory spokespeople would be a start), I could say the same about PETA and the ACLU but... I'm still grateful these organizations have some social/political clout and act as watchdogs and advocates.
The NRA certainly seems to be the lesser of the evils
#20
Posted 01 February 2013 - 06:16 PM
Yup. That's the sentiment I'm hearing. This law is ultimately going to be challenged and reps in NY better get ready for a serious fight, or plan to loose their seats next election. Upstate NY is full of hunters who aren't going to take this sitting down.
you are forgeting that in NYC there are LOTS of hunters too. Hunting is not just a rural thing.
#21
Posted 01 February 2013 - 06:25 PM
you are forgeting that in NYC there are LOTS of hunters too. Hunting is not just a rural thing.
I'm not forgetting. But on average, city folk do not participate in outdoor sports such as hunting. I've lived here for 8 years and have met exactly zero people that are even knowledgeable of a basic rifle. They bike, they ski, they go on expensive vacations, they love their iphones and a trip to the pub.











