And yet again, they found a few automatic weapons involved...
http://www.newsday.c...ldren-1.4479460
Teen kills parents and 3 kids
Multiple family murder in New Mexico
Started by
hoagie
, Jan 21 2013 02:02 PM
286 replies to this topic
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- VibeTribe
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 04:35 PM
Semiautomatic, Hoag (means shoots one round each time you squeeze the trigger - full automatic means keeps shooting as long as you hold down the trigger). Be careful with this - learn the proper terminology. Otherwise the zealots will just mock your syntax error.
Fully automatic weapons are, and always were, illegal for civilians.
#5
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 04:45 PM
Fully automatic weapons are, and always were, illegal for civilians.
fully automatic weapons were banned for civilians in 1986. You are allowed to own a fully automatic weapon if it was made before 1986, you have $200 to apply for a "can I have one please" permission slip, and you pass their background check on you.
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- VibeTribe
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 04:53 PM
Fully automatic weapons are, and always were, illegal for civilians.
fully automatic weapons were banned for civilians in 1986. You are allowed to own a fully automatic weapon if it was made before 1986, you have $200 to apply for a "can I have one please" permission slip, and you pass their background check on you.
#9
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- VibeTribe
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 04:54 PM
It's just another troll thread. There's no mention of automatic or semi-automatic in the article, he was using the term as bait and he got a bite.
Hey douchy, it says "assault" weapon in the article.
"ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. - A horrific scene awaited officers responding to an emergency call at a New Mexico home — five family members dead, all with multiple gunshot wounds. The victims were later identified as parents and their three young children and the suspected attacker as their 15-year-old son.
Investigators trying to piece together what led to the violence late Saturday night found several guns believed used in the shootings, including one assault rifle, Bernalillo County Sheriff Dan Houston said Sunday. The owner of the weapons hasn't been determined."
"the term "assault weapon" is sometimes conflated with the term "assault rifle". An assault rifle is a military rifle that utilizes an intermediate-power cartridge, and that generally is capable of full-automatic fire, where multiple rounds are fired continuously when the trigger is pulled one time — that is, a machine gun — or burst capable, where a burst of several rounds is fired when the trigger is pulled one time"
so please refrain from trying to call me out for starting a discussion. It isnt a good look for you. It isnt my fault the writer used those words.
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- VibeTribe
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 04:59 PM
The terms "assault weapon" , "assault rifle" are easily confused. Mainly because the definition is so vague.
The term "Machine Gun" is easily understood. A fully automatic weapon is a machine gun. God only knows what most people mean by "assault weapon"
#14
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- VibeTribe
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 05:00 PM
Hey douchy, it says "assault" weapon in the article.
"ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. - A horrific scene awaited officers responding to an emergency call at a New Mexico home — five family members dead, all with multiple gunshot wounds. The victims were later identified as parents and their three young children and the suspected attacker as their 15-year-old son.
Investigators trying to piece together what led to the violence late Saturday night found several guns believed used in the shootings, including one assault rifle, Bernalillo County Sheriff Dan Houston said Sunday. The owner of the weapons hasn't been determined."
"the term "assault weapon" is sometimes conflated with the term "assault rifle". An assault rifle is a military rifle that utilizes an intermediate-power cartridge, and that generally is capable of full-automatic fire, where multiple rounds are fired continuously when the trigger is pulled one time — that is, a machine gun — or burst capable, where a burst of several rounds is fired when the trigger is pulled one time"
so please refrain from trying to call me out for starting a discussion. It isnt a good look for you. It isnt my fault the writer used those words.
Like I said the article doesn't mention automatic or semi-automatic.
You got your bite so just be happy and stfu kthxbai 
#15
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 05:03 PM
A fully automatic weapon is a machine gun
I believe this too, to be incorrect. A machine gun does not necessarily have a selector.
A machine gun is often portable to a certain degree, but is generally used when attached to a mount or fired from the ground on a bipod, and generally fires a rifle cartridge. Light machine guns are small enough to be fired and are hand-held like a rifle, but are more effective when fired from a prone position. The difference between machine guns and autocannons is based on caliber, with autocannons using calibers larger than 16 mm.
A tragedy in comedy continues......
#18
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- VibeTribe
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 05:07 PM
quit making news of this bullshit. It's doing more harm then good. If we stop putting this bullshit in the limelight, these kids may not be so damn anxious to get there. IDK, I may be so far off with that...but it just seems if we were to all shut off the news and the tv's...it may do some good. The internet may be a bit harder for some. 
Oy! IDK.
#25
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- VibeTribe
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 05:15 PM
Selecting fire rates. Usually from single shot, to three round burst and/or full auto.
OK. I think I understand.
Some weapons can be both semi auto, or fully auto (with some able to do a 3 shot burst)
Some are fully auto only ---> machine guns?
Some are semi auto only ---> IMO this weapon gets confused with the others, simply because it is SOMETIMES lumped in by the term "assault rifle"
I would assume a machine gun only has the capability of continued fire until ammo supply is exhausted?
I'm not being silly here, I'm just trying to get an understanding of the terms.
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#38
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 05:31 PM
OK. I think I understand.Some weapons can be both semi auto, or fully auto (with some able to do a 3 shot burst)
Some are fully auto only ---> machine guns?
Some are semi auto only ---> IMO this weapon gets confused with the others, simply because it is SOMETIMES lumped in by the term "assault rifle"
I would assume a machine gun only has the capability of continued fire until ammo supply is exhausted?
I'm not being silly here, I'm just trying to get an understanding of the terms.
It's difficult to understand this stuff because terms are being misused by even our lawmakers. For instance, new legislation is defining an "assault weapon" by accessories such as pistol grip, bayonet mount, flash supressor, folding or telescoping stock, grenade launcher, not by firing capability.
I'm not sure they made a firearm that had the capability of 3-round bursts but was not fully automatic as well.
#39
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- VibeTribe
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 06:28 PM
why is this the 'solution' for todays young people? have a problem in any area of your life? shoot everyone you can find! i'm baffled i guess. parents are too strict? shoot them! parents aren't strict enough? shoot them! someone is bullying you? shoot them! No one is bullying you but you're having a bad day? shoot random people! bored? Shoot people!
i agree that the notoriety is not helping, but what is the alternative? keep it a secret? is the news media really to blame for every shooting? i don't have an answer, i'm just as confused as the next person.
i guess when every american movie hero (or anti-hero) just shoots whomever is bothering them at the moment that's got to have an effect too. when real to life shooting video games train young people to be target shooters that's not helping. why can't they tell fact from fiction?
#41
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- VibeTribe
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 07:13 PM
When is a weapon not an "assault weapon?"
I've read posts on other sites from people who consider "assault rifles" to be "range rifles with fancy plastic ornaments."
What if this really was a false flag operation, with government agents egging on unstable people to go on shooting sprees?
I've read posts on other sites from people who consider "assault rifles" to be "range rifles with fancy plastic ornaments."
What if this really was a false flag operation, with government agents egging on unstable people to go on shooting sprees?
#49
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- VibeTribe
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 09:52 PM
What is wrong with restricting weapons, make them hard to get across the board, across all states, the laws in the country are rediculous... Lets give all citizen a noce muzzle loader 
Nobody. But if some can have it (even those who should not), then I see no reason to restrict law abiding citizens. It's afterall, a bill of rights, not a bill of needs.
