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260 School Children Killed in Chicago in 3 Years -- Where Are the Tears for Them?


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#101 TakeAStepBack

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 07:29 PM

Not for Iran anyway, no. Or at least not since 1953.

#102 JBetty

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 07:33 PM

Well yes, that is implied by saying the media first reported on it that day.

But I would also say this did not go on prior to 1/20/190 (reagan's inauguration day)



Disagree again.
Do you really think that in the ~10 weeks between his election and inauguration he was able to broker a peaceful deal with the Iranis to release the hostages, after negotiations had been going on for over 400 days?

(hostages freed in 1981)

#103 TakeAStepBack

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 07:35 PM

Jbetty really knows this era of US political history. :naughty:

#104 TEO

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 07:36 PM

Current events :wink:

#105 JBetty

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 07:36 PM

Jbetty really knows this era of US political history. :naughty:



Who needs nice shoes! :mrgreen:

#106 JBetty

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 07:37 PM

Current events :wink:




?

This was 30+ years ago.

#107 TakeAStepBack

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 07:39 PM

:lmao:

#108 TEO

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 07:42 PM

?

This was 30+ years ago.


Hmm about the same time you were in say high school? :winkydinky:

#109 TEO

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 07:43 PM

:funny1: Really I have a much better recollection of events that happened during school years as they were driven into us over and over.

#110 JBetty

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 07:43 PM

After - I was having babies when the Iran Contra scandal was going down.
But thanks for the compliment! :mrgreen:

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 07:47 PM

Disagree again.
Do you really think that in the ~10 weeks between his election and inauguration he was able to broker a peaceful deal with the Iranis to release the hostages, after negotiations had been going on for over 400 days?

(hostages freed in 1981)


Ah, I put 1980, but 1981 is correct, 80 was the election year, 81 was inauguration.

So you are saying that Reagan made a deal to trade guns and stuff for the hostages?

The Algiers Accords makes no mention of this, and states that it was Carter negotiating with Iran as the reason why, but really it was Reagan's threat that led them to make a deal.

Among its chief provisions are:

The US would not intervene politically or militarily in Iranian internal affairs
The US would remove a freeze on Iranian assets and trade sanctions on Iran
Both countries would end litigation between their respective governments and citizens referring them to international arbitration, namely the Iran – United States Claims Tribunal.
The US would ensure that US court decisions regarding the transfer of any property of the former Shah would be independent from "sovereign immunity principles" and would be enforced
Iranian debts to US institutions would be paid



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Posted 27 December 2012 - 08:00 PM

So you are saying that Reagan made a deal to trade guns and stuff for the hostages?


Yes


The Algiers Accords makes no mention of this, and states that it was Carter negotiating with Iran as the reason why, but really it was Reagan's threat that led them to make a deal.



That is what we were told and what we believed at the time.
As the situation unfolded over the years, reality turned out to be something completely different than what we were led to believe.

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 08:01 PM

I do not remember this, and not going to research anymore looking to verify this, but if you could verify this, I might find it interesting reading.

PS. I was 13 in 1985.

#114 TakeAStepBack

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 08:05 PM

Yes





That is what we were told and what we believed at the time.
As the situation unfolded over the years, reality turned out to be something completely different than what we were led to believe.


Are you saying that the governments official story was a lie to cover up a conspiracy that should have led to convictions and jail time in the highest office of the land? Because that just doesn't ever happen according to official stories. :D

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 08:09 PM

Are you saying that the governments official story was a lie to cover up a conspiracy that should have led to convictions and jail time in the highest office of the land? Because that just doesn't ever happen according to official stories. :D


Same for racial cleansing conspiracy?

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 08:09 PM

I do not remember this, and not going to research anymore looking to verify this, but if you could verify this, I might find it interesting reading.

PS. I was 13 in 1985.



I wouldn't know where to begin.



Are you saying that the governments official story was a lie to cover up a conspiracy that should have led to convictions and jail time in the highest office of the land? Because that just doesn't ever happen according to official stories. :D



No. It never happens. :winkydinky:

#117 TakeAStepBack

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 08:17 PM

Same for racial cleansing conspiracy?


I pointed out in my post regarding this that the connection of motive for bringing guns and drugs into inner city areas to my knowledge is "i dont know". What I do know, is that the government has bureaucracies that have in fact, run both guns and drugs through these inner cities (and even suburban areas.)

Their motive could be 3 fold for all i know.

#118 concert andy

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 08:19 PM

Wait, what am I doing here spewing shit?

:lol:

#119 TakeAStepBack

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 08:20 PM

Probabl;y the same reason Im still here. But Im not starting convos much on stuff. Just really shooting the shit. I spenttime trying to actually engage here. Now it is just passing time.

#120 concert andy

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 08:23 PM

Exactly, and I have lots of that today, tomorrow and Monday. Only member of my team at work this whole week. Very quiet, and no traffic. Cant / wont complain.

#121 TEO

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 08:25 PM

Yeah I know, but here is a link to Wiki: http://en.wikipedia....n–Contra_affair

#122 JBetty

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 08:26 PM

Wait, what am I doing here spewing shit?

:lol:




PT Barnum'd

#123 JBetty

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 08:44 PM

Exactly, and I have lots of that today, tomorrow and Monday. Only member of my team at work this whole week. Very quiet, and no traffic. Cant / wont complain.



Same here, except I won't be spewing shit with you on Monday.

#124 TEO

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 08:53 PM

I get to be here tomorrow babysitting the new network dudes. :bang:

#125 TakeAStepBack

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 08:56 PM

Bummer. I'll be here though. We can share strange information if you like.

#126 TEO

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 08:57 PM

Yes, I like.

#127 JBetty

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 09:01 PM

It's like the frickin breakfast club in here.

#128 TakeAStepBack

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 09:02 PM

and a lap dance or two. Bring your $4 bills. :naughty:

#129 TakeAStepBack

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 09:03 PM

It's like the frickin breakfast club in here.


better than the frickin Bushwood Country Club . :rolleyes:

#130 JBetty

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 09:04 PM

Not so sure about that.....

#131 TakeAStepBack

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 09:06 PM

Me either. I just had no good reply.

#132 TEO

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 09:06 PM

Yeehaw, I noticed I still have a stack of fiat currency! Lap dance! :jamguy:

#133 TakeAStepBack

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 09:07 PM

:crazy:

#134 Joker

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 09:30 PM



#135 JBetty

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 09:32 PM

https://www.youtube....h?v=O21xtdoiJoM




I don't know what you posted here, but your timing really sucks.
We're really bored at work this week, and you wait until it's almost quitting time to show up. :spank:
Be here at 8am tomorrow.

#136 Joker

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 10:16 PM

:lol:

I'll see what I can do.

#137 PeaceFrog

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 02:44 AM

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#138 JBetty

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 01:07 PM

:lol:

I'll see what I can do.




8:08 :tapfoot:

#139 hoagie

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 01:16 PM

Usual suspect'd

#140 Joker

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 01:52 PM

8:08 :tapfoot:

What's on the agenda for today?

Perhaps the dealings with/arming of terrorist organizations by the current administration?

#141 TakeAStepBack

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 02:02 PM

That would never happen, Joker.

#142 JBetty

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 02:13 PM

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#143 concert andy

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 02:20 PM

Didn't Reagan give Osama bin Laden weapons too?

Bring on the chaos.

...Bored at work.

#144 JBetty

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 02:23 PM

9/11 was all Reagan's fault. Bastid

#145 concert andy

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 02:26 PM

9/11 was all Reagan's fault. Bastid



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#146 JBetty

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 02:36 PM

Sad but true.

#147 TakeAStepBack

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 02:37 PM

Yep. Bin Laden was an operative who later joined with extremists from egypt and those released from jail in Afghan...later forming militant groups funded by CIA agents. To this day, we still fund and then fight these so called "terrorists". It's a mutually beneficial relationship.

Watch the power of nightmares.

#148 Joker

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 02:45 PM

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#149 concert andy

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 02:52 PM

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#150 PeaceFrog

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 12:47 AM

captain chaos FTW