Are you posting in a vacuum?
Sometimes I think maybe it's just me
other times I'm sure it is
Is this where I turn into a republican?
Started by
butterqueen
, Dec 10 2012 09:21 PM
253 replies to this topic
#152
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- VibeTribe
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Posted 11 December 2012 - 05:46 PM
One person and an experience in a store.
Sorry if the comments came out as judging, but aren't you now judging also?
Some people like to eat poop. How is that relevant? (To add context to Apple and PC) The new Apple laptop, was replacing a windows laptop. Making excuses for people is also judging them in some way, because you are assuming about them too. Point is she knew how to use it, and if she didn't I would start a thread about how dumb she was.
How could the Apple laptop be a treasured belonging? She got it the week before.
People who treasure things, tend to be materialistic. I try my best to not be this way, but I do fail on occasion.
I know, judging people for being judgmental is hypocritical. I'm not judging anyone at all. I'm just saying that selling your belongings is not always the best option... like hoagie said:
I see how the chick bitching about being broke yet keeping an expensive laptop could get you amped up, ill give u that...but im sure if papa found out the laptop had been sold for cash and a cheap pc replacement, that would be the end of the awesome freebies from daddy. I wouldnt risk that...
I guess it would create jobs if we hire more people to investigate people who receive public assistance and make sure they really need it... but do you really want to go down that road?
#155
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Posted 11 December 2012 - 05:53 PM
we could offer rewards to people who snitch out their friends... would you snitch her out for $1000?
No, I will just tell her to her face that she is being childish, like I did already.
$2K freebies from mommy and daddy at 29 are prolly a good thing.
And you are not judging? I read you pointing your finger at me for judging, and I feel that is also passing judgement.
#159
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Posted 11 December 2012 - 05:59 PM
it's a matter of mental training. I know it isn't easy. I have judgmental thoughts often, but I try to just observe them like clouds in the sky and let them float by without getting too attached to a single one.
I don't always succeed, but I think I will get better with practice.
sorry if you thought I was judging you.
I don't always succeed, but I think I will get better with practice.
sorry if you thought I was judging you.
#160
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Posted 11 December 2012 - 06:13 PM
I guess it would create jobs if we hire more people to investigate people who receive public assistance and make sure they really need it... but do you really want to go down that road?
The problem is it is hard to prove and inspections are scheduled. The only real way to accomplish this is through maintenance personnel's documentation then getting the tenant to own up to illegal household members.
#162
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Posted 11 December 2012 - 06:22 PM
the only way to make it fair for everyone, is to allow everyone to collect it. I haven't heard a single politician advocate this, but it's really the simplest and most practical solution in my opinion.
Really, everyone? Who pays for that?
#170
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Posted 11 December 2012 - 07:04 PM
Why would everyone benefit?
Because we take government money?
Very confused by this logic.
(Everyone would have to pay a whole lot more).
yeah, everyone would pay more, but everyone would collect, even while you're working, so for a middle class person, it should balance out to where you receive about the same as you contribute. Lower earners would benefit the most, and higher earners would contribute the most.
But if everyone collected, then nobody can say that it's unfair. At that point you just complain about tax rates.
#179
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Posted 11 December 2012 - 07:31 PM
I still do not understand why this would be a good idea.
Just sounds like more government and more spending.
some government jobs would be lost, others would be created. I think unemployed people would get hurt the most because welfare is a lot less than unemployment. If people wanted supplemental unemployment insurance they'd have to get it through their union, or from private insurers.
it's just something I've thought about for a while now, and I throw it out here for others to ponder and give me feedback as to what is right or wrong with it. It's not an idea that I have written in a tablet of stone and signed by Ron Paul.
It would pretty much just consolidate unemployment and welfare. Consolidation sometimes leads to less waste.
#184
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Posted 11 December 2012 - 07:50 PM
some government jobs would be lost, others would be created. I think unemployed people would get hurt the most because welfare is a lot less than unemployment. If people wanted supplemental unemployment insurance they'd have to get it through their union, or from private insurers.
it's just something I've thought about for a while now, and I throw it out here for others to ponder and give me feedback as to what is right or wrong with it. It's not an idea that I have written in a tablet of stone and signed by Ron Paul.
It would pretty much just consolidate unemployment and welfare. Consolidation sometimes leads to less waste.
I do not like it, at all.
because then everyone is living off the governemtn.
#188
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Posted 11 December 2012 - 07:54 PM
Well, TASB doesn't like the fact everyone is suppose to shut up about the topic because of corp. welfare.
TtB doesn't either. It should be discussed. Though on balance, I suspect that corporate influence and malfeasance are are far greater detriment to this country than folks on welfare/unemployment are.
#192
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Posted 11 December 2012 - 08:03 PM
TtB doesn't either. It should be discussed. Though on balance, I suspect that corporate influence and malfeasance are are far greater detriment to this country than folks on welfare/unemployment are.
I think most people would be surprised how much of our money is lost through fraud of the social safety net. From recipients of benefits all the way up the food chain to Executive Directors and Board of Directors.
If this chart is even close to correct that is a huge slice of our pie.
http://www.cbpp.org/...fa=view&id=1258
#198
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Posted 11 December 2012 - 08:17 PM
maybe capt should read the thread again cause he doesnt remember anyone being told to shut up...what he does remember is an insult directed at people who have a differing opinion on the subject. or should i just say the family forum
#199
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Posted 11 December 2012 - 08:18 PM
TtB doesn't either. It should be discussed. Though on balance, I suspect that corporate influence and malfeasance are are far greater detriment to this country than folks on welfare/unemployment are.
Spidergawd thinks it's kind of like focusing on the ants in your picnic basket while virtually ignoring the fucking bear stealing your car. But Spidergawd realizes he should have done a better job of communicating that the "shut up" was mostly rhetorical. But that doesn't change Spidergawd's position, no sir.
