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#101 u.s.blues

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 09:36 PM

Is it considered a mental illness if you constantly see patterns and kaliesoscopic textures in your normal field of vision, particularly while reading text or looking at water?


not sure how i feel about this but apparently, it might be..."HPPD is a DSM-IV diagnosis with diagnostic code 292.89" i suppose the diagnosis might focus on wether or not the issue is upsetting to the person and or, if it interferes with their everyday life. if it makes one happy and doesn't cause a problem would it still be an illness?

http://en.wikipedia....eption_disorder

#102 Ginger Snap

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 09:42 PM

not sure how i feel about this but apparently, it might be..."HPPD is a DSM-IV diagnosis with diagnostic code 292.89" i suppose the diagnosis might focus on wether or not the issue is upsetting to the person and or, if it interferes with their everyday life. if it makes one happy and doesn't cause a problem would it still be an illness?

http://en.wikipedia....eption_disorder


Cause a problem for who would be my question. I have a client that used to be very psychotic and would laugh and laugh and laugh all the time- he never caused any trouble for anybody, he just laughed all the time. And he seemed perfectly happy in his psychosis. He is also cognitively delayed which is why even now that he isn't psychotic we still care for him. Someone sure thought he had an illness and prescribes meds to treat it.

I don't know that they much care if it makes one happy. Sometimes in the biz they call that "client lacks insight into their illness."

#103 u.s.blues

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 10:05 PM

Cause a problem for who would be my question. I have a client that used to be very psychotic and would laugh and laugh and laugh all the time- he never caused any trouble for anybody, he just laughed all the time. And he seemed perfectly happy in his psychosis. He is also cognitively delayed which is why even now that he isn't psychotic we still care for him. Someone sure thought he had an illness and prescribes meds to treat it.

I don't know that they much care if it makes one happy. Sometimes in the biz they call that "client lacks insight into their illness."


i completely understand what you are saying. in your example, it seems as though your client's concerns did impact his everyday life, and that was obvious to those around him. i'm thinking along the lines of...a situation where someone's 'concerns' are not troubling to both themselves and others...

#104 Ginger Snap

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 10:09 PM

i completely understand what you are saying. in your example, it seems as though your client's concerns did impact his everyday life, and that was obvious to those around him. i'm thinking along the lines of...a situation where someone's 'concerns' are troubling to both themselves and others...


I don't think so, that's why I added that he has cognitive impairments that affect his everyday life, not necessarily the psychosis. Only difference now is he laughs less and sleeps more. :lol:

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 12:23 AM

I don't think so, that's why I added that he has cognitive impairments that affect his everyday life, not necessarily the psychosis. Only difference now is he laughs less and sleeps more. :lol:


an he gains 40 lbs. Life on Planet Risperdal suburb of Trazadone

#106 Ginger Snap

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 12:50 AM

worse for the weight gain- zyprexa. :dunno:

#107 Royal

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 12:57 AM

I went from risperdal to abylify to zyprexa. I like. Zyprexa best

Havent taken a trazey since 06

Serzone and paxil are evil


Lithium. Is gold



#108 Ginger Snap

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 01:06 AM

Zyprexa does seem to really work well for the folks I know on it. It can make losing weight really challenging though which is why I was brought up before maybe a shift in goals. How you doing? Do you mind if I ask if you're on a mood stabilizer?

#109 butterqueen

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 01:10 AM

Zyprexa--best for psychosis, worst for your blood glucose levels and tendency to eat everything not nailed down.

I used to work on the litigation. Sucks when something so good has tremendous side effects to live with.

#110 little frog

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 02:16 PM

I don't think you can make a blanket statement on mental illness and parenting. There are some people with mental illness that are aware of their limitations and work hard to make things work in their lives. Others are not so interested in their surroundings and become very self absorbed in their own pain and suffering.

Parenting is about being a good teacher, a responsible financial supporter and having the good judgment to deal with crisis when they arise, and they do. There are many parents without mental illness that don't fit this criteria.

Parenting is the hardest, longest job you'll ever undertake. If you're not up for the challenge then you should not engage. Children are not little experiments and should not be seen as possessions. Sure, some kids come out stronger for having to deal with a mentally ill parent, but they still pay the price for not having had the stability that children need. Is the house a healthy place for the child to grow and thrive? That's the most important question, mental illness or not.

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 02:25 PM

well said little frog!

#112 Ginger Snap

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 03:41 PM

:clapping:

#113 PeaceFrog

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 04:52 PM

I'm pretty sure I was raised as an experiment

#114 unbroken_chain

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 05:11 PM

could we keep this to me bitching about my PITA ex wife? :tapfoot:

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#115 little frog

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 05:14 PM

you already know her limitations .. stand your ground for heaven's sake :P

#116 unbroken_chain

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 05:21 PM

I'm pretty sure I was raised as an experiment


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"now why would you conjur up such an odd thought, my child?"

#117 unbroken_chain

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 09:34 PM

exwife text: (today) Hi. Money today?
exwife text Hello??
UnbieChain (happynow?) Hello
exwife text: I hate it when you ignore me about money.
Unbie: OMG..... We already had this conversation! scroll back to the 23rd hun.
Exxie I did. It says you are giving me 300 today.
Unbie: I will copy and paste for you.
Unbie "Will I be able to count on 300 Friday?" (pasted from exxie 12/23)
Unbie: "Yea" (pasted from the 23rd)
Exxie Well, isnt today Friday? (sent 20 mins ago)

#118 unbroken_chain

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 09:36 PM

*Unbie realizes he is mentally ill just for going thru the effort of typing out that silliness :rolling: but I have beaver txts killing my droiod and can't stop them, in addition to cranky ex wife txts :rolling:

#119 Joker

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 09:44 PM

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#120 unbroken_chain

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 09:46 PM

perfect!!!

#121 BHB

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 09:52 PM

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#122 little frog

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 09:55 PM

so she didn't convince you today is friday? she just didn't try hard enough

#123 Tim the Beek

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 09:56 PM

exwife text: (today) Hi. Money today?
exwife text Hello??
UnbieChain (happynow?) Hello
exwife text: I hate it when you ignore me about money.
Unbie: OMG..... We already had this conversation! scroll back to the 23rd hun.
Exxie I did. It says you are giving me 300 today.
Unbie: I will copy and paste for you.
Unbie "Will I be able to count on 300 Friday?" (pasted from exxie 12/23)
Unbie: "Yea" (pasted from the 23rd)
Exxie Well, isnt today Friday? (sent 20 mins ago)


Tell her if she moved to Australia it would be. Hey, it could work. You never know.

#124 Indigo Adventurer

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 10:01 PM

Perhaps she would be good at being a house wife?


NOOOO WAY! Being a housewife is more work than a full time job!!!

#125 Indigo Adventurer

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 10:14 PM

Being raised by a mentally ill parent until the age of 12 then being tossed into the system I have a little insight from the kid's perspective. It is hard. It is confusing. It also tends to be passed on and learned. There is also damage that can occur from not being able to be around that parent, especially after living with them until the age of 13.

What can you do? You can make sure that your child knows that because Mom is dealing with something does not mean they have to suffer. When they are feeling alone, anxious, scared, upset, depressed, sad, or left out to come to you. To go to a good person who will listen if not you. Teach them why people deal with these issues and what they mean to others and society as a whole. Arm your child with knowledge and show them how to grow and learn without imitating behaviors they need not pick up. Try to do with without making your ex out to be some kind of freak. But this could strengthen the bond between you and your child when handled with grace. This could teach them acceptance, nurturing, tolerance, independence, and how to overcome obstacles early on. Use this as a tool for learning rather than a situation to be dealt with. Showing your stability and sound mental/emotional health will give a sense of trust and security to a potentially chaotic situation.

#126 Java Time

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 10:23 PM

I was raised by mentally ill feral swingers in the Hamlet of Islip until about a day ago

#127 Java Time

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 10:29 PM

...every Friday strange feral couples would drop by...men always had candy in their pockets for me and for some strange reason the women always needed my face buried in their crotch to keep wolves at bay? Hmmp...go figure :dunno:

#128 Tim the Beek

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 10:30 PM

:lol:

I love this place.

#129 Tim the Beek

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 10:32 PM

Hmmp...


Hump

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#130 Java Time

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 10:37 PM

Hump

:thup:


spel chezk timy....whater you doin' hear?!?

#131 Tim the Beek

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 10:39 PM

Eyem hear four teh hmmpin'!

:julius:

#132 Java Time

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 10:47 PM

Eyem hear four teh hmmpin'!

:julius:


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tee-hee...you're naughty :blush:

#133 Indigo Adventurer

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 11:26 PM

Eyem hear four teh hmmpin'!

:julius:


:rotf: Love it here!

#134 Jwheelz

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 02:05 AM

:dance:

#135 Lostsailr

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 03:06 AM

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that looks like the exit shuttles from Red Hook vibes

#136 In A Silent Way

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 04:13 AM

...every Friday strange feral couples would drop by...men always had candy in their pockets for me and for some strange reason the women always needed my face buried in their crotch to keep wolves at bay? Hmmp...go figure :dunno:


Sounds like my synagogue.

#137 unbroken_chain

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 03:09 PM

...every Friday strange feral couples would drop by...men always had candy in their pockets for me and for some strange reason the women always needed my face buried in their crotch to keep wolves at bay? Hmmp...go figure :dunno:


nice of you to clean up the blood trail!

Ok...

Now... HOW do I convince her it's still Thursday......

#138 little frog

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 05:05 PM

today is saturday ... and you should have paid her twice yesterday .. :)

#139 unbroken_chain

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 05:23 PM

today is saturday ... and you should have paid her twice yesterday .. :)


oh she would just love you :lol:

#140 little frog

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 06:29 PM

scary, ain't it?

#141 unbroken_chain

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 06:49 PM

:moose:

#142 jme

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 04:29 AM



#143 IT_Buzz

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 08:02 AM

I wish you all would stop talking about me. This would look better if that damn leprechaun would get of the bushes on the side of my house.