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#1 moed_over

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 04:01 PM

...this kid was so stupid, he deserved what he got. Who the f&%k sticks their head out of an emergency roof hatch on a bus.

And, when the f&%k did super birthday parties for your sixteenth birthday become so big. My sixteenth birthday was a card, a movie at the dollar theater, and dinner at home.

:huh:

http://www.cnn.com/2....html?hpt=hp_t3



New Jersey teen killed after sticking head out of party bus



New York (CNN) -- A New Jersey teenager was killed when his head hit a highway overpass after he apparently stuck it out of a party bus near the George Washington Bridge, which connects Manhattan with New Jersey over the Hudson River.


Daniel Fernandez, a 16-year-old resident of Sayreville, died Friday evening on his way to a sweet 16 party, according to Port Authority spokesman Steve Coleman.


He was on the top level of a double-decker bus when he apparently stuck his head out of an emergency hatch in the roof, Coleman said.


His head then struck the underside of an overpass, he said.




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Emergency vehicles surround the white bus, right, involved in Friday's accident.


The incident occurred after the New Jersey-bound bus departed Queens, New York -- loaded with 65 teenagers -- and had just crossed the George Washington Bridge.


Off-duty emergency medical technician Leon Tyrone McKivor, 52, said he approached the scene to offer his assistance and escorted worried parents to a nearby police station where their children were waiting.


"One individual had on a blood soaked shirt that he refused to take off until police insisted that he change," McKivor told CNN. "A number of other individuals had blood all over them, as well."


McKivor said he tried to console Fernandez's mother.


"She was just crying and crying and hugging me and thanking me," he said.


The horrific scene left several party-goers stunned, according to multiple posts on social media.


"Sitting here with your blood on my foot wishing this was all a bad dream," tweeted teenage party-goer Vicky Budz. "Can't sleep with you on my mind cause the more time goes on the more its settling in."


News of the incident spread quickly via the microblogging site Twitter, with over 500 tweets to the #staystrongdan hashtag within a few hours of the accident.


Fernandez was brought to Hackensack Medical Center, where he was pronounced dead, said hospital spokeswoman Nancy Radwin.


Coleman said the teen had suffered severe head trauma, but would not comment further.


The bus is touted online as "the largest custom made party bus in the country," according to Designer Transportation, which released a statement expressing sympathy for the teen's family.


"Our company cares about the well being of our patrons," the statement said.


Company spokesman Todd Shapiro said there was no alcohol aboard and that security had checked passengers beforehand.



#2 TheDHJ

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 04:37 PM

Darwin award winner for sure.

#3 hoagie

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 04:41 PM

thats absolutely horrifying...

#4 Eddie Z

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 06:58 PM

Nothing to loose your head about.

#5 Ginger Snap

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 10:09 PM

That's terrible. Sure it was a dumb thing to do but how many of us did really dumb shit when we were kids and it's damn lucky nothing really bad happened to us. "deserves it" is really harsh and a terrible thing to say. You should feel really bad about wanting to say that, it's called your conscience.

#6 moed_over

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 12:39 AM

That's terrible. Sure it was a dumb thing to do but how many of us did really dumb shit when we were kids and it's damn lucky nothing really bad happened to us. "deserves it" is really harsh and a terrible thing to say. You should feel really bad about wanting to say that, it's called your conscience.


No, I really don't. The kid was way outside the bounds of any kind of normal social behavior by opening the emergency hatch on the roof. If this happened when he stuck his head out the window, I might not say that.

I might also be persuaded that it was more the parents fault for failing to ensure that the kid knew how to behave, or failing to provide proper supervision, if there were more facts about it...

#7 Royal

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 12:45 AM

That's terrible. Sure it was a dumb thing to do but how many of us did really dumb shit when we were kids and it's damn lucky nothing really bad happened to us. "deserves it" is really harsh and a terrible thing to say. You should feel really bad about wanting to say that, it's called your conscience.


When we were kids, Wit, we had angels watching over us. I really dont know if it's the same these days.

#8 gregoir

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 01:04 AM

When we were kids, Wit, we had angels watching over us. I really dont know if it's the same these days.


Most of us wouldn't of been opening the emergency hatch on a roof of a bus either. Yes I said most of us. :lol:

#9 twilight dancer

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 01:09 AM

my mom used to yell at us when we stuck our arms out the car windows. because someone would always be ready to chop them off, she said. So I imagined people would drive by having machete knives in their car waiting for kids sticking their arms and heads out the car windows.

noone deserves that, though. That's someone's kid. and a human being.

#10 KittyRocks

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 01:28 AM

good god i can agree that is an exceptionally stupid thing to do... but deserving THAT? good lord no!

#11 KittyRocks

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 01:29 AM

The horrific scene left several party-goers stunned


oh gee ya think

#12 sarah b.

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 01:38 AM

Holy crap! Those poor kids, family, friends, etc.

#13 Jwheelz

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 01:38 AM

yeah definitely nobody deserves that... maybe a scare for doing something so stupid but nobody deserves what happened to that kid

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 01:38 AM

It's easy to forget what it's like to be 16 and "in the moment." I know how lucky I am to be alive after the crazy crap we did back in the day. Angels? Maybe. Or maybe we were smarter about being stupid? No clue. It's a shame; it's way stupid; and I feel really bad for the kid's family and friends.

#15 deadheadskier

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 02:01 AM

Feel bad for the kid and his family. Also feel terrible for all of the other kids on the bus who probably saw something more gruesome than they should ever have to see in their lifetime.

I can remember cruising around the dirt roads of VT in high school with my friends hanging out the sun roof of the car; often stoned off our asses. Looking back I feel lucky that one of us didn't have such a sad story written about us in a paper. We were pretty dumb. Many kids are.

#16 alsoa

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 04:22 AM

...this kid was so stupid, he deserved what he got.


Damn dude, could you be any more callous? The kid was 16. I know I did a lot of stupid shit that probably should have ended worse than it did.

#17 Jersey Thug

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 03:13 PM

me too ^.

#18 gram-man

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 03:29 PM

While I originally felt really bad for this kid and his family, I felt a little less bad after reading he had been warned several times by the security guard on the bus NOT to open the hatch. From Yahoo news:


NEW YORK (AP) — Mourning the death of a beloved student in a gruesome accident, English teacherJane Lynch spoke of the 16-year-old in a trembling voice. Friends sent sad Twitter messages expressing their affection for Daniel Fernandez, and hundreds of students gathered Saturday evening for a candlelight vigil at St. Francis Preparatory School in Queens.

The teen was killed after he stuck his head out of the emergency hatch of a double-decker bus and hit the underside of a highway overpass, authorities said. The Friday night accident followed warnings of a security guard on the bus who said he told the teen passengers repeatedly not to open the hatch.

"Sometimes kids don't recognize their own mortality," Lynch said, her voice quivering.

Fernandez was among 65 teens aboard the bus from New York City on its way to a Sweet 16 party in Garfield, N.J., said Steve Coleman, spokesman for the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey. The accident happened as the bus crossed the George Washington Bridge on the way to New Jersey.

The teens were dancing and the bus had gotten hot, the security guard, Alex Franco, told the Daily News.

"I told them not to open the hatch, like three or four times, but kids, they don't understand," he said.

Franco said he had gone downstairs to tell the driver that it was getting too hot.

"Two, five minutes I was downstairs," he said.

But then he heard teenagers screaming, and he saw Fernandez on the floor of the bus. "There was so much blood everywhere," he told The New York Post.

Fernandez, who lived in Queens' Woodside neighborhood, was pronounced dead at a hospital.

Calls to his family home Saturday in Queens rang unanswered.

Friends sent sad Twitter messages reacting to his death.

"Sitting here with your blood on my foot wishing this was all a bad dream. I love you so much dan you were there for me till the last second," wrote one student, who said she was forever scarred.

Students planned to wear blue on the first day of school to honor the teen.

Fernandez was going to be a junior at St. Francis Preparatory. He was a beloved student, said Lynch, who taught him last school year.

"He was an adorable, low-key kid, with a sweet smile," she said. "Kids loved him; he had lots of friends and was popular with the girls."

She said a group of students had a special last project, producing and appearing in a takeoff on the novel "Lord of the Flies," about a group of boys on a desert island who try to govern themselves, with disastrous results.

"He was very hands-on, he took the leadership role," said Elizabeth Gonzalez, a student teacher at St. Francis last year.
Fernandez played the villain in the video students posted on YouTube, she said.

In class, "he was very lively, and high-spirited," she said. "And he had so much potential in his writing."

The school said on its website that it shared in grief and shock over his death. A wake was set for Monday, the site said.

Designer Limousines, which operates the bus, expressed its "deepest heartfelt sympathy" to the teen's family. The company said it would conduct an internal investigation.

#19 hoagie

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 03:38 PM

the most important part of the above quote is "kids, they don't understand,"

they dont. its sad. <3

#20 In A Silent Way

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 04:34 PM

My kids don't understand why I can't rent them a double-decker party bus for their Sweet 16 parties.

Yeesh. What an awful thing to happen.

#21 Spel Chek Jimy

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 05:16 PM

Nothing to loose your head about.


Lose

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#22 Sunshower

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 05:17 PM

I cannot imagine being on that bus and witnessing that. And my heart goes out to his family and friends too. Might have been a really stupid thing to do, but it really is awful.

#23 Raynequeen

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 06:17 PM

i did PLENTY of stupid things between 12-17 that i should have not been so lucky to get out of.... i have deep sympathy for his family, friends, and anyone who had to witness what happened. what a tragedy

#24 Misha

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 01:33 PM

i did PLENTY of stupid things between 12-17 that i should have not been so lucky to get out of.... i have deep sympathy for his family, friends, and anyone who had to witness what happened. what a tragedy


Me too! Driving really drunk, friends "surfing" on the hood of moving cars, etc..etc..

#25 u.s.blues

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 01:40 PM

i've done some stupid sh*t in my life...i got lucky...this kid did not. very sad.

#26 In A Silent Way

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 01:42 PM

What are the chances the Fernandez family gets sued for the cost of years of therapy by all the kids who had to witness the mess?

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 02:10 PM

Me too! Driving really drunk, friends "surfing" on the hood of moving cars, etc..etc..



Was just about to post something very similar to this. I really have no clue why I'm still here, or my friends for that matter. There is an immortal innocence that kids carry, I certainly had it. This is about perspective (imo). When looking at this from a mature constitution, of course the word "idiot" comes to mind. This kid was being... well, a kid.

I have to say, the launch into this from the op, "this kid was so stupid, he deserved what he got" really turned my stomach. Poor form.

#28 little frog

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 03:33 PM

horrible for all involved. i wish them peace <3

#29 In A Silent Way

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 03:40 PM

To say the kid "deserved what he got" is pretty harsh, but his actions led to their logical conclusion -- unfortunately for his family and especially the witnesses.

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 05:37 PM

I feel bad for the kid heck it could of been me at the same age. We use to ride two cars wide down narrow country roads jumping from roof top to roof top at high speeds.

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 05:39 PM

To say the kid "deserved what he got" is pretty harsh, but his actions led to their logical conclusion -- unfortunately for his family and especially the witnesses.


You sound like a computer analyzing data...

#32 Julius

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 05:40 PM

I just don't ever read tragic stuff like this, like ever. I know there's a lot of pain and misery and bad stuff out there and it doesn't help me to cope with life to read about the gruesome detail of tragedy, plus there's nothing I can do about it anyway. So feeling and sympathizing with the pain of strangers only brings me down so I've gotten really good at ignoring it.

#33 hoagie

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 05:42 PM

I just don't ever read tragic stuff like this, like ever. I know there's a lot of pain and misery and bad stuff out there and it doesn't help me to cope with life to read about the gruesome detail of tragedy, plus there's nothing I can do about it anyway. So feeling and sympathizing with the pain of strangers only brings me down so I've gotten really good at ignoring it.


and the friendly people at the coffee shop too? :lol: (jus playin)

#34 In A Silent Way

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 05:45 PM

You sound like a computer analyzing data...


I whirr like a fan?

#35 Jambear

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 06:18 PM

This will end up being the most important part.................... Franco said he had gone downstairs to tell the driver that it was getting too hot.

The dude will most likely get laid off and the bus company sued big time for failure to supervise.


Kids are inherently stupid.
Would i have done the same thing at 16................yup, you just dont see the big picture and are invincible at that age.

#36 Java Time

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 06:21 PM

this is horrific and i feel for the family and friends :heart:


...first thing I ever learned on a bus...and that was KINDERGARTEN! was not to stick your head and arms out of a bus.

at 16, I would have realized that a double decker bus would be fairly high off the ground and sticking my head out the top of it could only spell trouble...at 16 he never saw a truck/semi pass under a bridge and thought it was going to hit it?!?



not too mention he and the others were warned :undecided:


again a horrible tragedy that he certainly did not deserve but

#37 Java Time

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 06:25 PM

Nothing to loose your head about.

Lose

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I didn't read anything about anyone losing their head...perhaps it was just loose :nulo:


:funny1: that's terrible I know...I'm sorry defense mechanism gone awry :sad:

#38 hoagie

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 06:38 PM

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#39 Depends

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 07:05 PM

When I was 16 or 17, I was taking a train home from NYC. As the train was pulling into the station, I wanted to stick my head out the door, grabbing onto the handle by the door. Kinda like a million movies I had seen. Just as I was leaning towards the door, another train passes on the tracks next to me. I don't recall how close it was, but it scared the crap outta me. My head would have been going one direction with my body going another.... Never did it again.

#40 mayfly

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 01:42 PM

this will definitely make 1000 ways to die next season...