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#1 Misha

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 02:46 PM

Jude asked me this a few times and I told him I thought there wasn't. I researched it and got conflicting info. Do numbers go on for infinity? Crap, I hope he's not going to be a big math guy. I'm screwed if he is!

#2 hoagie

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 02:59 PM

numbers go on for infinity, because "you can always add 1 to it".

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 03:00 PM

the set of real numbers is designed never to have an endpoint, there are certainly numbers too big to conceptualize, and some of them are too big to write in any kind of long form, but my understanding is that theoretically you could just keep counting up through infinity... however infinity is not actually a number but more of a concept... any number plus infinity = infinity, any number times infinity = infinity, any number minus infinity = - infinity, etc. anyone who actually really understands mathematics please correct me if I'm wrong

#4 scarfire

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 03:00 PM

big math guys go on to big careers, misha!

like time and space, numbers are infinite although there are some who do not believe this theory.

#5 hoagie

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 03:02 PM

big math guys go on to big careers, misha!

like time and space, numbers are infinite although there are some who do not believe this theory.


Time and space being infinite is debatable.

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 03:17 PM

Time and space being infinite is debatable.


This, numbers do not end.

123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890,12,345,678,901,234,567,890,123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890,12,345,678,901,234,567,890,123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890,12,345,678,901,234,567,890,123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890,12,345,678,901,234,567,890,123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890,12,345,678,901,234,567,890,123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890,12,345,678,901,234,567,890,123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890,12,345,678,901,234,567,890,123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890,12,345,678,901,234,567,890,123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890,12,345,678,901,234,567,890,123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890,12,345,678,901,234,567,890,123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890,12,345,678,901,234,567,890,123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890,12,345,678,901,234,567,890,123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890,12,345,678,901,234,567,890,123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890,12,345,678,901,234,567,890,123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890,12,345,678,901,234,567,890,123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890,12,345,678,901,234,567,890,123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890,12,345,678,901,234,567,890,123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890

it just keeps going and going and going.

#7 hoagie

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 03:26 PM

This, numbers do not end.

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+ 1 = 123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890,12,345,678,901,234,567,890,123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890,12,345,678,901,234,567,890,123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890,12,345,678,901,234,567,890,123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890,12,345,678,901,234,567,890,123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890,12,345,678,901,234,567,890,123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890,12,345,678,901,234,567,890,123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890,12,345,678,901,234,567,890,123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890,12,345,678,901,234,567,890,123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890,12,345,678,901,234,567,890,123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890,12,345,678,901,234,567,890,123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890,12,345,678,901,234,567,890,123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890,12,345,678,901,234,567,890,123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890,12,345,678,901,234,567,890,123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890,12,345,678,901,234,567,890,123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890,12,345,678,901,234,567,890,123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890,12,345,678,901,234,567,890,123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,890,12,345,678,901,234,567,890,123,456,789,012,345,678,901,234,567,891

#8 melissaphish

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 03:27 PM

time and space are all just illusion anyway....

#9 August West

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 03:37 PM

time and space are all just illusion anyway....


:bang:

#10 concert andy

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 03:37 PM

welcome to the Matrix.


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#11 Lostsailr

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 03:44 PM

The one I save for the road! :gregoir: (neil taught me that)

#12 concert andy

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 03:58 PM

And as one of my math professors used to say, what the difference between positive and negative between friends.

#13 Spidergawd

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 04:14 PM

Yup. 42.

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#14 scarfire

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 05:13 PM

wait until he learns about imaginary numbers.

they're more fun than imaginary friends!

#15 August West

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 05:41 PM

69? 68 and 70 just arent the same

#16 concert andy

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 05:43 PM

wait until he learns about imaginary numbers.

they're more fun than imaginary friends!


Ugh I hated these the first time I saw them. But really it is quite simple

i = imaginary number
i = -1
i (squared) = 1

#17 August West

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 05:46 PM

but what about the square root of -1?

#18 August West

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 05:47 PM

you know what the square root of 69 is?

#19 August West

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 05:47 PM

8 something

#20 scarfire

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 06:04 PM

8 something


that's better than an imaginary number

#21 August West

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 06:11 PM

imagine that!

#22 Tim the Beek

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 06:15 PM

Yup. 42.

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:clap: Beat me to it.

#23 Again and Again

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 07:11 PM

time and space are all just illusion anyway....



Dreams are lies. It's the dreaming that's real.

#24 u.s.blues

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 07:14 PM

the set of real numbers is designed never to have an endpoint, there are certainly numbers too big to conceptualize, and some of them are too big to write in any kind of long form, but my understanding is that theoretically you could just keep counting up through infinity... however infinity is not actually a number but more of a concept... any number plus infinity = infinity, any number times infinity = infinity, any number minus infinity = - infinity, etc. anyone who actually really understands mathematics please correct me if I'm wrong


interesting...i wonder how this concept of infinity will hold up if humans live long enough to learn more about it..?

#25 August West

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 07:30 PM

well if you look at a graph of population versus time, you will see that it is an exponential function. we are at the turn where things start to approach infinity.

#26 concert andy

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 07:50 PM

but what about the square root of -1?


Had to google it, since you asked...

What is the square root of i?

There are two square roots of i: Posted Image and Posted Image. You can check that these are indeed square roots of i: just square each of them, and you get i.


http://www.math.toro...er/rootofi.html

#27 August West

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 08:10 PM

i squared = negative one

i is the square root of negative one

#28 Spidergawd

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 08:52 PM

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#29 PieDoh

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 09:00 PM

if I were to roll an imaginary number how long would it take to smoke it?

#30 Jabadoodle

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 09:02 PM

No. Just like your imagination, it's all endless. ~

#31 concert andy

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 09:04 PM

if I were to roll imaginary number how long would it take to smoke it?


I got some labrador.

#32 August West

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 11:28 PM

had to follow him around with a baggie for 2 days

#33 Tabbooma

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 11:32 PM

:)

wait until he learns about imaginary numbers.

they're more fun than imaginary friends!



#34 suburbanite84

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 11:57 PM

I-man?

#35 August West

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 12:00 AM

I-man?


he's real!
























isn't he?

#36 hoagie

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 12:14 AM

I got some labrador.


Uh, whats labrador?

#37 TEO

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 12:16 AM

8675309

#38 Jabadoodle

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 12:45 AM

8675309


The boardie version of Godwin's law.
Well, that and "Oh good lord."

#39 KrisNYG

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 12:47 AM

8675309


:lol:

#40 August West

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 12:55 AM

Uh, whats labrador?


how old are you?

#41 PieDoh

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 01:06 AM

Hey man, it's dave....open up...


#42 little frog

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 02:13 AM

Jude asked me this a few times and I told him I thought there wasn't. I researched it and got conflicting info. Do numbers go on for infinity? Crap, I hope he's not going to be a big math guy. I'm screwed if he is!


<3 haha .. i love you!! (((misha)))) jude's a clever little man, the questions will only get harder as he gets older.

#43 Mr Bo Berry

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 02:33 AM

When I signed up for the board they said there would be no math. That being said eleventy billion

#44 hoagie

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 12:55 PM

how old are you?


You were supposed to say something about your dog eating your stash dude. Failing

#45 hoagie

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 12:56 PM

<3 haha .. i love you!! (((misha)))) jude's a clever little man, the questions will only get harder as he gets older.

aint
the only thing that will get harder...

:runs away:

#46 August West

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 03:16 PM

You were supposed to say something about your dog eating your stash dude. Failing


i ate it first

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Daves not here!

#47 Gypsy Bob

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 05:08 PM

The Last #, imaginary or "real" ends in Z.

#48 hoagie

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 06:02 PM

Its "omega"..,



#49 PeaceFrog

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 05:20 AM

The last number is usually called the Encore.

but as far as math goes, numbers have neither a beginning nor an end. Whole numbers have a beginning (1), but no end.

I think 0 is the first real number, I could be wrong. If it's not zero, then it's some infinitesimally small number that is as close to zero as possible without actually being zero.

imaginary numbers such as the sqrt(-1) are on the vertical rather than horizontal axis creating a complex plane.