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#51 hoagie

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 05:49 PM

is there some other reason we are giving these lowlife dirtballs any more attention?


it makes me completely question any religion. period.

#52 hoagie

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 05:50 PM

and this thread should have ended at "God hates"

#53 TheJackNJ

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 05:50 PM

That is a much better solution than spreading even more hate over the protest. PITY them, dont hate them. Thats what i do.


IGNORE it is the answer...unfortunately theyve made this so callous its almost impossible to ignore...WHICH IS THEIR AIM

#54 TheJackNJ

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 05:51 PM

bottom line........ this is not the time to be a defender of ones "rights" not in this situation

#55 halfstar

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 05:52 PM

We should rape their horses and ride out on their women.

#56 hoagie

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 05:54 PM

gnite Ned

#57 deadheadskier

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 05:56 PM

if you knew what you were talking about youd know that it started as heady...you know, the way its actually spelled?

again nice try

please stay on topic


wow

I am shocked and served

#58 insolent cur

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 06:04 PM

bottom line........ this is not the time to be a defender of ones "rights" not in this situation

no. now is exactly the time to defend one's first amendment rights.

#59 TheJackNJ

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 06:06 PM

no. now is exactly the time to defend one's first amendment rights.


disagree...and i dont even have childern...if this was my daughter id be in jail

#60 insolent cur

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 06:07 PM

disagree...and i dont even have childern...if this was my daughter id be in jail

that would be your choice.

popular speech needs little if any protection. it is usually vile and distasteful speech which needs the protections afforded by the first amendment.

#61 hoagie

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 06:07 PM

no. now is exactly the time to defend one's first amendment rights.


its the most important thing, not "who-is-right"

what is right is defending this groups right to protest the funeral, despite anyones opinion one way or another.

#62 unbroken_chain

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 06:12 PM

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#63 Joker

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 06:16 PM

God loves assholes :heart:

#64 insolent cur

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 06:18 PM

God loves assholes :heart:

i can't speak to that...but the first amendment sure does protect a lot of what spews forth.

#65 Joker

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 06:20 PM

i can't speak to that


Sure you can, he loves you too

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#66 TheJackNJ

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 06:21 PM

they may have all the right in the world to do it.....still disgusting...which was the point

#67 TheDHJ

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 06:21 PM

Don't get me wrong. I despise what they have to say, but will defend to the death their right to say it.

Perhaps I should have said "morally reprehensible".

#68 hoagie

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 06:25 PM

Perhaps I should have said "morally reprehensible".


again, that is debatable, and shouldnt matter.

#69 deadheadskier

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 06:32 PM

There are many places / situations where we as citizens waive our first Ammendment rights. Schools, private businesses, the work place, heck this message board.

I wouldn't have a problem with funerals being included on that list.

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 06:43 PM

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#71 hoagie

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 06:48 PM

There are many places / situations where we as citizens waive our first Ammendment rights. Schools, private businesses, the work place, heck this message board.

I wouldn't have a problem with funerals being included on that list.


fantastic

#72 scarfire

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 08:36 PM

that's risky business in a wild west state like arizona

#73 Chip

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 08:40 PM

Funny Facebook Group popped up yesterday

Petition to have Varg Vikernes burn down Westboro Baptist Church

http://www.facebook....105683642811890

#74 motti

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 08:43 PM

im argueing how anyone can say what is "rioght" or not. thats all.


I have the faculty of reason, that allows me to interperate the world around me and say this is right, this is wrong.

if no one can say what is wrong or right, the words are meaningless. I reject out of hand that truth is unknowable or that right and wrong, that morals are relative...

#75 Ravn

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 08:47 PM

My sister sent me this (cut and paste, highlighted part is hers)


http://www.foxnews.c...ctims-funerals/


"It makes me sick to my stomach," said Glen Littell, who's bringing a pack of bikers from the Phoenix Motorcycle Rider Group to Tucson on Thursday. "They're a stench from a slaughterhouse. We're just going to block the stench so the family can catch their breath."

Littell said his riders are not looking for any violent confrontations. But he told FoxNews.com that Arizona bikers are going to do "whatever we have to do" to cordon off the family from the protests. A group called the Patriot Guard Riders often does this when the Westboro church pickets military funerals, but Littell said that group is not traveling to Tucson, so "we're stepping in."
"Our sole purpose will be to allow that family some dignity and respect … without having to worry about the a--holes," he said.

"Nothing says stand back and be silent like a Hells Angels presence," he said.
Littell added that if the church moves on to picket other funerals, his riders will follow.
"We're getting word there's gonna be a pretty large presence of bikers," he said. "Word's spreading. And spreading quickly."


#76 Arglebargle

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 09:11 PM

I don't have the sufficient words to sufficiently express my rage at these lowlife vermin.

#77 hoagie

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 09:40 PM

I don't have the sufficient words to sufficiently express my rage at these lowlife vermin.



that you have rage over anything is too bad. Dont waste your energy

#78 Arglebargle

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 11:02 PM

Maybe you're right, or maybe you're wrong. I'm powerless to change this, but it seems downright callous to accept it. I do have plenty of energy to waste though, might as well be for this.

#79 Depends

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Posted 12 January 2011 - 01:11 AM

In 2005 US Northern Command issued an advisory about Westboro in 2005 saying church funding came from litigation.
"This group does employ passive-aggressive techniques intended to provoke a hostile response or offensive reaction from others," Northern Command wrote. "This group will then file a civil action in an effort to reach a settlement in order to fund future activities."

Theperson to ask is Nate Phelps, who left the family at age 18. He has plenty to say about them.

#80 KtotheP

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Posted 12 January 2011 - 02:19 AM

Arizona lawmakers pass funeral protest legislation

http://www.cnn.com/2...boro/index.html

Take THAT Fred Phelps.

Shock'd Serve'd

#81 Deadshow Dan

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 01:47 PM

Here is the story of Lauren who was kicked out of the Westboro 'church'



#82 unbroken_chain

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 01:49 PM

she must be devastated. :coffee:

#83 Jersey Thug

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 02:15 PM

she must be devastated. :coffee:


even if you disagree with everything they stand for, it is still incredibly hurtful to be cast out by your own family. so yeah, she probably is.

#84 unbroken_chain

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 03:54 PM

yeah. she probably is.

#85 vic

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 08:23 PM

:gop::gop::gop::gop::gop::gop::gop::gop::gop::gop::gop::gop::gop::gop::gop::gop::gop::gop::gop::gop::gop::gop::gop::gop::gop::gop::gop::gop::gop::gop::gop::gop::gop::gop::gop::gop::gop::gop::gop::gop::gop::gop::gop::gop::gop::gop::gop::gop::gop::gop:

#86 TheDHJ

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 08:41 PM

:clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping:

Vic FTW.

...and fuck Fred Phelps and the Westboro Baptist Church. I hope they get cancer, they should only get cancer. :gop:

#87 TheDHJ

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 08:47 PM

http://www.deathandt...ornado-victims/

Massive tornadoes swept through Missouri earlier this week, leaving at least 125 dead, hundreds still missing and thousands homeless. It’s a tragic and heart-wrenching scenario, one that evokes heartbreak among the most rational and reasonable citizens. The Westboro Baptist Church, however, is not among them.

Best known for their incessant hooting and hollering against gays and picketing dead soldiers’ funerals, the nonsensical church is now celebrating the death and destruction in Missouri by disseminating their traditionally ugly press releases, including one that declares, “Thank God for 125 dead.”

Again, this is not rational behavior. Not to the majority of the public, at least. To Westboro, however, they’re coming not from a place of hate, but from a place of love. That’s what one of Westboro founder Fred Phelps’ grandchildren told me when I interviewed her a few years ago.

“The definition of ‘love’ to people in this generation is loving someone even when you see them doing wrong, saying, ‘Oh, that’s okay, I’m going to love you anyway, because I’m just that good. I’m just a good person,’” Megan Phelps explained in February of 2010, when Westboro was picketing Twitter.

“That’s not what God’s standard of love is; He says, ‘Thou shalt not hate thy neighbor in thine heart,’ but instead of hating them, your job is to, ‘rebuke him and not suffer his sin upon him.’ So, again, loving your neighbor is warning him.”

While Westboro’s actions are certainly a lesson in religious fanaticism, they also offer a meditation on the subjective nature of “love.” To some it’s flowers and sunshine, and to others it’s fire and brimstone. Luckily for us, most people, religious or otherwise, know which love is the best love, and it’s not the celebration of dead babies or lives torn asunder.

#88 TheDHJ

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 08:50 PM

This is not a religious group. This is an extremist group.

#89 Gnomes

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 08:58 PM

The more the media covers them, the more their stupidy will continue. They love the attention. It's absurd that any one would protest at funeral, no matter who it is or what they did. It just blows my mind.

#90 unbroken_chain

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 09:09 PM

I surmise it is only a matter of time, before they piss of the wrong "mourner" and they are protesting at the funeral of one of their own :monkey:

#91 Deadshow Dan

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 09:15 PM

Inside the WBC. BBC documentarian hangs with WBCers for a bit. See the wrath of Gramps. See the young children indoctrinated. See the hot daughters :D

http://topdocumentar...ily-in-america/

#92 TakeAStepBack

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 09:19 PM

This is not a religious group. This is an extremist group.


My thoughts exactly. Why aren't they rounded up like any other extremist? :huh:
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#93 TakeAStepBack

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 09:19 PM

Inside the WBC. BBC documentarian hangs with WBCers for a bit. See the wrath of Gramps. See the young children indoctrinated. See the hot daughters :D

http://topdocumentar...ily-in-america/


WAY TL;DW
:lol:

#94 Ravn

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 09:25 PM

My thoughts exactly. Why aren't they rounded up like any other extremist? :huh:
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I have been saying that forever. Why aren't they considered a hate group like the Klan?

#95 TheDHJ

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 09:33 PM

I have been saying that forever. Why aren't they considered a hate group like the Klan?


They are...

#96 motti

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 09:53 PM

This is not a religious group. This is an extremist group.


no,
they are not a religious group, they are a group of professional trolls and lawyers who manufacturer lawsuits to make money.

#97 TakeAStepBack

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 09:55 PM

:bowl:

#98 Slarti

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 10:12 PM

please stay on topic

:lol:

#99 Lazy Lightning

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 10:22 PM

Wait, so the Westboro Baptists are all about the hate? :huh: I mean, they hate EVERYONE, pretty much huh?

Such a waste of life.

(never heard of 'em before reading a few posts in this thread)

#100 motti

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 10:52 PM

see their websites lola www.godhatesfags.com and www.godhatesamerica.com and for comic relief www.godhatesshrimp.com