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Sio, almost four years to the date of my adventure in looking for a new job...
Started by
TakeAStepBack
, Jul 24 2012 04:13 PM
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#103
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 05:57 PM
Interestingly, i get a new call today from a recruiter regarding another position in my field. This time, they pulled the bachelor degree card. Which is fine, I dont have that. But I can tell anyone, as I told this recruiter, that a piece of paper does not make one qualified to do this job. it takes years of experience and know how in the field to understand in inner workings of commercial building real estate in the metro area.
People are goign to have to come around to the idea that a piece of school papaer is not the end all in knowledge in fields like mine. In fact, it probably wont mean shit. I have highly educated people here that can not find light switches. So if that is the criteria base, good luck on finding competent management in my field.
People are goign to have to come around to the idea that a piece of school papaer is not the end all in knowledge in fields like mine. In fact, it probably wont mean shit. I have highly educated people here that can not find light switches. So if that is the criteria base, good luck on finding competent management in my field.
#104
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 06:07 PM
When I was hiring my own staff, the first thing I looked at was personality and the ability to fit in with me and my current team.
Then came experience.
And way down the list was certs and diplomas.
I've always felt that job skills can be taught. Aptitude and attitude cannot.
You're angle is your experience. Make it also your attitude and you'll be in business.
Then came experience.
And way down the list was certs and diplomas.
I've always felt that job skills can be taught. Aptitude and attitude cannot.
You're angle is your experience. Make it also your attitude and you'll be in business.
#107
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Posted 09 August 2012 - 12:29 AM
Interestingly, i get a new call today from a recruiter regarding another position in my field. This time, they pulled the bachelor degree card. Which is fine, I dont have that. But I can tell anyone, as I told this recruiter, that a piece of paper does not make one qualified to do this job. it takes years of experience and know how in the field to understand in inner workings of commercial building real estate in the metro area.
People are goign to have to come around to the idea that a piece of school papaer is not the end all in knowledge in fields like mine. In fact, it probably wont mean shit. I have highly educated people here that can not find light switches. So if that is the criteria base, good luck on finding competent management in my field.
I think college degrees are highly over-rated
#108
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Posted 09 August 2012 - 01:30 AM
I think college degrees are highly over-rated
Easy to say if you have one (I mean that in the nicest way possible).
Degrees are important! I opted out from an outstanding school (Ithaca College with possible entry into Cornell after the first year). I was not ready and my mom was forcing me to do the paperwork, still was accepted to IC. I thought it was best (oh teen Kris, how I love you) to "do my thing" at that time after my first semester.
I apprenticed in the art field and have been self employed for fifteen years as a conservational picture framer, almost got the gig for NBMofA recently. However this economy BLOWS!!! I hope to not put myself in this position again by trusting our fearless leaders so I am contemplating going back. I have gone back to school in the past for my amusement only, could be the real deal now. Like your beloved, I am considering the nursing degree. They make f-ing 90k/yr out here with bennies!
#113
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Posted 09 August 2012 - 02:57 AM
When I was hiring my own staff, the first thing I looked at was personality and the ability to fit in with me and my current team.
Then came experience.
And way down the list was certs and diplomas.
This.
If I interview someone who is young (under 30 or so, not that number specifically) OR just right out of college with no experience, I do ask/care about degree, etc. If I interview someone who has been working for a few years and they have an MBA, it does not matter much to me....I want to know what they have done, how they did it, etc. Degree does not matter at that point... Experience and proven ability to achieve is what moves me to hire someone
#115
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Posted 09 August 2012 - 03:11 AM
I'm pursuing a degree in a specific discipline though...
The danger in that, as I have learned, is if there is a job shortage in said discipline and you apply for other jobs people ignore you because they think you should be working in the discipline that you have your degree in, where as stated before there are no jobs
#116
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Posted 09 August 2012 - 03:35 AM
Easy to say if you have one (I mean that in the nicest way possible).
Degrees are important! I opted out from an outstanding school (Ithaca College with possible entry into Cornell after the first year). I was not ready and my mom was forcing me to do the paperwork, still was accepted to IC. I thought it was best (oh teen Kris, how I love you) to "do my thing" at that time after my first semester.
I apprenticed in the art field and have been self employed for fifteen years as a conservational picture framer, almost got the gig for NBMofA recently. However this economy BLOWS!!! I hope to not put myself in this position again by trusting our fearless leaders so I am contemplating going back. I have gone back to school in the past for my amusement only, could be the real deal now. Like your beloved, I am considering the nursing degree. They make f-ing 90k/yr out here with bennies!
do it
#117
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Posted 09 August 2012 - 01:25 PM
Unless they're Ivy League
(seriously, it depends on the position)
I take it from the emoticon that you were joking.
I know plenty of people who went to Ivy league schools solely because they were good at scoring touchdowns, or their Daddy graduated from one.
