something I think will help many of you

[sure-ur-rightdancer]

http://intuitiveeating.com/

I have noticed recently (and I am guilty of this too) that its spring time and people are thinking about summer clothes so there is more and more diet talk on here.... I was there for so long (and still can't say I have completely gotten over it) but honestly where has it gotten you?

I see so many posts about how much some one lost on this diet or another one yet they are back on it.... and most often weighing more than before - take a look at this site (the book is awesome!) and check out this forum http://throughthickandthin.myfreeforum.org/index.php

diets don't work.... and yes I know/understand the whole calories in calories out thing - I am not saying that restricting yourself won't make you lose weight in the short term however of all the people you know who have lost weight on a diet how many do you know that have either gone too far (ie ended up with an ED or otherwise unhealthy food relationship) or just ended up heavier (probably around 85%)

this isn't a lose 10lbs in the first week or even month or something however it will permenantly fix your relationship with food and allow you to eat what you want when you want forever! diets take away our natural instincts about food and destroy your natural hunger and metabolism this helps you get back to it

I know it sounds kinda crazy but its real (its also know as a few other programs but I like this cause its based on a lot of research and personal experiences)... personally I have been doing it for about a month now and while I haven't lost much weight (about 4 lbs) for the first time in a long time I don't sneak food, feel guilty about food, constantly feel bad about myself, crazy fries and candy and junk etc. I can eat anywhere and not have to worry (which makes me not even want it half the time)

sorry to have such a long and soap-box-esque post but now that I have 'seen the light" I can't help but want to tell others
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[safireblues]

I think about this often because I discovered about 4 years ago that diets wouldn't work, that they messed up my mind and metabolism. I would lose, but then gain back, gain more, and feel terrible.

I read a book that discussed eating what you like, letting go of the diet mentality, having fresh things that you actually want, not denying yourself, learning how to not overeat. It changed my whole life. I've lost 30 pounds since then. Slowly.

The most important thing is that I feel ok with food again. I am not constantly thinking "oh, I ate this, this is bad, I'm a failure."

Since I started eating in a different way, I don't think I've ever gained any weight. I've either lost or maintained.

[sure-ur-rightdancer]

if you don't mind me asking... what book did you read? I have the intituive eating one and I am thinking of getting a few others ... any suggestions

(also I am really curious about one plan that has the initials PM and has some 4 "rules"...everyone talks about it but they don't give the real name cause its copywrite protected or something)

[safireblues]

It was called "How much does your soul weigh?"

[HoopsTer]

it's not crazy, Carla. It's perfectly logical.
I can't diet. I do not do well on "restrictions" to me it's like punishment.
Usually when people eat or crave they are trying to fill something, but 90% of the time it's not hunger, it's something else. The trick is to deconstruct your cravings and nourish yourself and your life in the areas it is lacking.

[little frog]

this is a little confusing for me .. intuitive eating? eating anything you want whenever you want and this is healthy and intuitive? confused?

[sure-ur-rightdancer]

well basically that is the jist of it...however its a bit more than just that - its eating what you want when you want but only till your full ..... have you ever eaten a giant ice cream sunday (or steak dinner or bag of potato chips etc) and just been so full it hurts and you never want to ever eat them again - you use this to guide you into eating better foods and better portions - once you get over the diet mentality of restricting, good food vs bad foods most people find that they don't want or crave a big mac every day cause it makes them feel sick after they eat it

there are some nutritional guidelines to help you at the end once you have mastered the idea of eating only when you are hungry and stopping once you are full but they come later in the program

also for many people its just the "forbidden" mentality that makes them want chips, fries, donuts etc - of course if you have some sort of allergy or something then you need to modify the eat whatever rule but for most people who do this they end up eating healthier because the realize that certain foods make them feel sick (processed etc) while others (fresh veggies, lean meats) make them feel good

[safireblues]

When you are a chronic dieter, you are either being "good" or "bad"...and it's someone else's perspective that's dictating good and bad foods. On one diet, fat is bad. Another carbs. Another demonizes sugar.

The idea is that your body knows what you want and need, but we get away from it with dieting. Restriction changes your metabolism and once you stop "dieting", you put all the weight back on plus more. And there's the simple logic that when someone tells you NO, you just want to eat it more.

IN this plan, you eat as you like. Maybe the first month you even over-indulge, but eventually, you come to listen to your body. Eat when you're hungry, stop when you're full, eat what you like but be conscious and don't overeat. Find exercise you enjoy. Make it about health rather than size. Only weigh yourself once or twice a year. Accept your unique body and nourish it.

[bsktcase]

I need a big guy named Tony standing over my shoulder with a baseball bat to make me think twice about eating that twinkie.

I'm trying to turn away from eating mostly processed foods and for me, that's hard. Especially when I grew up in a family of convenience eaters. Sugar Smacks for supper? SURE, why not! Susie Q for an evening snack....I don't see the harm in it. Would you like six handfuls of chips with your hamburger helper? etc, etc.

I can pretty much walk away from a meal when I feel satisfied...but I more or less need a guideline to help me eat BETTER foods. Losing weight in the process would be AWESOME but honestly, I want to eat healthier and do it for life.

*edited to add....that's not to say that I think the intuitive eating is a bad idea. I think it's great for people who tend to over eat.

[little frog]

i see .. so this is about changing your relationship with food completely, very interesting. most americans do have a very unhealthy view of food, very cool

[safireblues]

It's more about eating in the "french" way, that's how I thought of it. French people don't have diet foods. The problem is when you fight yourself. You may think "I want to have a hamburger", but instead of having it, you eat 85 rice cakes. Doesn't work. You eat 18 other things.

You would have been better off buying some lean beef, a good slice of cheese and a fresh bun, cooking it, eating it slowly and enjoying. You listen to what you want, but eat it well. If you're looking for something creamy, eat real cheese. If salty, get a small fry.

It's about listening to what you want, choosing wisely based on what you are craving, and stopping when you are sated.

[Ginger Snap]

This might not exactly fit in this thread but I wanted to share anyhow. I was dressing last night to go to a show, and I looked in the mirror, and was really pleased and happy with what I saw. Feels good.

[HoopsTer]

This might not exactly fit in this thread but I wanted to share anyhow. I was dressing last night to go to a show, and I looked in the mirror, and was really pleased and happy with what I saw. Feels good.


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That's wonderful.

[little frog]

i already eat this way .. very 'euro' .. i never diet. i watched my mother have a very very unhealthy relationship with food all my life. on and off diets forever. i can totally see how this would be helpful for someone like my mom.

i love food, i love to cook and i love to eat. i eat what i want when i want pretty much all the time, however i do have certain foods i eat in moderation like anything sweet and i tend to avoid simple carbs in my everyday life (which are only great in the moment and then as soon as they are consumed you feel like crap) .. i have a no guilt policy on food.



i have this same relationship with sex btw ;)

[sarah b.]

this sounds neat for folks who don't "need" the permission to obsess about their healthy foods consumption that certain diets that employ counting and measuring quantities offers them. Some people who are recovering from eating disorders, or trying to, for example. My little sister comes to mind. She cares way more about how what she sees in the mirror makes her feel than about her relationship with food. at age 15, I don't think she's up to applying this sort of wisdom, yet. Maybe one day.

My other thought is that some folks' brains and bodies are not wired as well as others', and certain neurological illnesses have side issues like the brain's "I'm full" detector not working. I do think this sort of concept could offer some benefit, in such cases, but I think the benefit may be limited. Other than those things, it sounds neat and potentially helpful to read, if only to try on a different view.
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