PDA

View Full Version : Whistleblower protections axed from stimulus by Senate Republicans


PeaceFrog
02-12-2009, 05:14 PM
So much for keeping the federal government from blowing millions in taxpayer money.

The Senate quietly stripped whistleblower protections from the final stimulus package Wednesday afternoon, as the bill's authors bragged of a bipartisan compromise. The removal is particularly significant because of the bill's $789 billion price tag.

http://www.newhomesguide.com/images/areapgs/dc/us_capitol_night.jpgDespite the ugly record of federal spending in Iraq -- where auditors found problems with $88 million (http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0127/dailyUpdate.html) in federal contracts, and couldn't account for 8.8 billion dollars -- senators quietly nixed the measure from the bill, without explanation.

Talking Points Memo, which cited a source close to the final bill, said the provision was removed by Republican Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME), one of the senators brokering the compromise.

"According to a person following the bill closely, Collins used today's conference committee to drastically water down the measure, citing national security concerns as the reason for her opposition," TPM's Zachary Roth wrote (http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/02/source_collins_strips_stim_bill_of_whistleblower_p .php). In the end, the protections were so weakened that House negotiators balked, and the result was that the entire amendment was removed."

Some Republicans take umbrage with the idea of blanket whistleblower protections, saying they could damage the US's ability to collect intelligence.

Project for Government Oversight, a government watchdog group, blasted the removal.

"Accountability got mugged today when congressional leaders stripped federal whistleblower protections from their compromise stimulus bill," the group said in a release (http://www.pogo.org/pogo-files/alerts/whistleblower-issues/wi-wp-20090211.html).

Part of the reason for government mismanagement of massive federally-funded projects is that federal whistleblowers have few effective protections from retaliation under current law. Of 55 whistleblowers who've filed complaints with the Merit Systems Protection Board for being fired or demoted, just two have won their cases.

"Federal workers who expose lax oversight of drugs at the Food and Drug Administration, cozy relationships between FAA inspectors and certain airlines, hundreds of billions of dollars in conscious "underestimates" for the cost of prescription drug coverage, and billions of dollars wasted in no-bid defense contracts face intimidation and retaliation and often are fired or demoted," the Kennebec Journal wrote in a Wednesday editorial (http://kennebecjournal.mainetoday.com/view/columns/5933371.html). "And their efforts to go through the chain of command or seek relief from retaliation by agency managers nearly always fail."

The Obama Administration hasn't spoken out about the whistleblower provision's removal. Thus far, they've been relatively accommodating to Republicans' requests -- for example, removing a provision that would have provided money for the prevention of sexually-transmitted diseases.

Yet, the Administration said they'd be protectors of whistleblowers as recently as last week. During his Feb. 5 confirmation hearing, Deputy Attorney General designate David Ogden told a Senate committee (http://www.fas.org/blog/secrecy/2009/02/big_believer.html) that he was "a big believer" in whistleblowers.

“I think what we need is a process that encourages whistleblowing in this administration and any other administration going forward. The business of making sure that we’re doing the right thing is an ongoing business,” Ogden said.

The Center for American Media's Washington Independent bemoaned the measure's removal late Wednesday.

"It’s an odd outcome, given that federal employees are often the first people to notice fraud and other abuses by government contractors, as exhibited in many of the House oversight hearings on the subject over the past few years," the Independent's Daphne Eviatar wrote (http://washingtonindependent.com/29959/federal-whistleblowers-not-protected-in-stimulus-bill). "(Remember Bunnatine Greenhouse, who lost her job after blowing the whistle on the no-bid contracts for Halliburton?)"

"The sticking point on the federal workers may be, as I explained before, the strong opposition from Republicans to providing whistleblower protection to intelligence employees," Eviatar added.

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Whisteblower_protections_stripped_from_stimulus_bi ll_0212.html

Joker
02-12-2009, 06:05 PM
The Obama Administration hasn't spoken out about the whistleblower provision's removal.

The Dems didn't have to remove it, they agreed to remove it.

PeaceFrog
02-14-2009, 01:06 PM
They agreed to remove a lot of things in order to get some Republican support. They need 60 votes in the Senate to prevent a filibuster. It's almost as if you have no idea how Government really works or something.

Prometheus
02-14-2009, 03:14 PM
I thought Republicans were all about accountability? How does this jibe with that frequent rhetoric?

Joker
02-14-2009, 05:10 PM
They agreed to remove a lot of things in order to get some Republican support. They need 60 votes in the Senate to prevent a filibuster. It's almost as if you have no idea how Government really works or something.

I know they could have left it in there if they really wanted to but instead they chose to remove it in order to get something else that they wanted.

If it's not in there then both parties share the blame for keeping it out.

Joker
02-14-2009, 05:13 PM
I thought Republicans were all about accountability? How does this jibe with that frequent rhetoric?

I thought the Democrats were the one's that were all about accountability.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss :Phishfolk:

PeaceFrog
02-14-2009, 08:01 PM
I know they could have left it in there if they really wanted to but instead they chose to remove it in order to get something else that they wanted.

If it's not in there then both parties share the blame for keeping it out.

You'd much rather that nothing gets done at all then. Good luck with your plight.

The rest of us prefer something got done rather than nothing.

I still don't think you understand the process. It's 48 Senators, not just one person who decides. Republicans are obstructing progress every step of the way. The 3 Republican votes they did get were critical for it all to happen.

Joker
02-14-2009, 08:35 PM
You'd much rather that nothing gets done at all then. Good luck with your plight.

The rest of us prefer something got done rather than nothing.

I still don't think you understand the process. It's 48 Senators, not just one person who decides. Republicans are obstructing progress every step of the way. The 3 Republican votes they did get were critical for it all to happen.

I don't think you understand.

Nothing you've said changes the fact

"The Dems didn't have to remove it, they agreed to remove it."

PeaceFrog
02-15-2009, 12:44 AM
I don't think you understand.

Nothing you've said changes the fact

"The Dems didn't have to remove it, they agreed to remove it."

If they didn't agree to remove it, we would be facing a situation known as "gridlock" which was quite common in Clinton's final years.

There's really no excuse for your unrealistic expectations. I've put you into the category of "whatever."

Your objective is to disagree with the majority at all cost.

Joker
02-15-2009, 01:01 AM
If they didn't agree to remove it, we would be facing a situation known as "gridlock" which was quite common in Clinton's final years.

There's really no excuse for your unrealistic expectations. I've put you into the category of "whatever."

Your objective is to disagree with the majority at all cost.Do you really think this was the deal breaker?

No, they most certainly could have given up something else to push the deal through, they chose this.

PeaceFrog
02-15-2009, 01:04 AM
Do you really think this was the deal breaker?

No, they most certainly could have given up something else to push the deal through, they chose this.

Really? You were there so you know? Since you're so knowledgeable, who put it in there in the first place?

Joker
02-15-2009, 01:15 AM
Do you really think this was the deal breaker?
:wink:

PeaceFrog
02-15-2009, 02:09 AM
I'm not so full of hubris as to assume that I know it wasn't, winky.

mule64
02-15-2009, 11:15 AM
Republicans are obstructing progress every step of the way. The 3 Republican votes they did get were critical for it all to happen.


oh, and this is new to the Senate? So did Dems in the past, but now that the Messiah is running the show, you expect Repubs to drop all objectives and agree with principles they do not agree with to help pass this crappy legislation. what u smoking?

PeaceFrog
02-15-2009, 02:05 PM
oh, and this is new to the Senate? So did Dems in the past, but now that the Messiah is running the show, you expect Repubs to drop all objectives and agree with principles they do not agree with to help pass this crappy legislation. what u smoking?

When are you going to let go of the past, man?

mule64
02-15-2009, 02:24 PM
We will stand up for what we believe in, if that is obstructing the progress of chairman MaObama, oh well. Deal with it and srop crying.

PeaceFrog
02-15-2009, 02:31 PM
I'm not crying. I'm laughing at your crying, actually.

It's funny to see you standing there all by yourselves.

mule64
02-15-2009, 02:36 PM
I would not call 52 million people who did not vote for and have no confidence in Obama "standing alone".

PeaceFrog
02-15-2009, 02:40 PM
No, but you sure do stick out like a sore thumb on this message board.

PeaceFrog
02-15-2009, 02:44 PM
The old get old
And the young get stronger
May take a week
And it may take longer
They got the guns
But we got the numbers
Gonna win, yeah
Were takin over
Come on!

Yeah!

Your ballroom days are over, baby
Night is drawing near
Shadows of the evening crawl across the years
Ya walk across the floor with a flower in your hand
Trying to tell me no one understands
Trade in your hours for a handful dimes
Gonna make it, baby, in our prime

mule64
02-15-2009, 08:51 PM
No, but you sure do stick out like a sore thumb on this message board.

so what? Do you think all these folks are left wing too? The ones that aren't are smart enough to not answer your insulting posts, personally I like replying to your bs, I like to reply to troll onsided posts.

mule64
02-15-2009, 08:51 PM
The old get old
And the young get stronger
May take a week
And it may take longer
They got the guns
But we got the numbers
Gonna win, yeah
Were takin over
Come on!

Yeah!

Your ballroom days are over, baby
Night is drawing near
Shadows of the evening crawl across the years
Ya walk across the floor with a flower in your hand
Trying to tell me no one understands
Trade in your hours for a handful dimes
Gonna make it, baby, in our prime

:funny1::funny1: liberal bullshit poetry:funny1:

PeaceFrog
02-15-2009, 09:11 PM
I think it's hilarious when you start throwing around words like "liberal" and "left wing" as if they were insults. Next you'll be calling us all long-haired hippies.

I try to see things from your point of view, but I just can't get my head that far up Sean Hannity's ass.

mule64
02-15-2009, 09:24 PM
I think it's hilarious when you start throwing around words like "liberal" and "left wing" as if they were insults. Next you'll be calling us all long-haired hippies.

I try to see things from your point of view, but I just can't get my head that far up Sean Hannity's ass.


people are left or right with a few moderates, that is correct. I am not trying to insult anyone. Do you have long hair? I doubt it. I do. You know nothing about me at all, do not give me that "us shit", that is total crap, as you seem to dish out so well(crap).
Sean Hannity? I do not listen to, or watch Hannity, typical liberal response to criticism, "you must watch Hannity or listen to Rush".
Some of us can think for our own selves.

PeaceFrog
02-15-2009, 09:27 PM
people are left or right with a few moderates, that is correct. I am not trying to insult anyone. Do you have long hair? I doubt it. I do. You know nothing about me at all, do not give me that "us shit", that is total crap, as you seem to dish out so well(crap).
Sean Hannity? I do not listen to, or watch Hannity, typical liberal response to criticism, "you must watch Hannity or listen to Rush".
Some of us can think for our own selves.

It's amazing to me how Republicans all agree with each other in lockstep. Is that magic or what?

staggerlee024
02-17-2009, 03:44 PM
the republicans have been far more obstructionists than the democrats could have ever hoped of being.