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Joker
01-25-2009, 01:50 PM
No Lobbyist in the Obama Administration ... Except When There Is One

January 22, 2009 03:45 PM ET | Robert Schlesinger (http://www.usnews.com/Topics/tag/Author/r/robert_schlesinger/index.html) | Permanent Link (http://www.usnews.com/blogs/robert-schlesinger/2009/1/22/no-lobbyist-in-the-obama-administration--except-when-there-is-one.html) | Print (http://www.usnews.com/blogs/robert-schlesinger/2009/01/22/no-lobbyist-in-the-obama-administration--except-when-there-is-one_print.htm)

By Robert Schlesinger (http://www.usnews.com/blogs/robert-schlesinger/index.html), Thomas Jefferson Street (http://www.usnews.com/sections/opinion/index.html) blog
So, President Obama (I do enjoy typing that) is going to ban lobbyists from his administration...except when he isn't?
This from today's New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/22/us/politics/22obama.html?_r=1&ref=todayspaper&pagewanted=all): In what ethics-in-government advocates described as a particularly far-reaching move, Mr. Obama barred officials of his administration from lobbying their former colleagues "for as long as I am president." He barred former lobbyists from working for agencies they had lobbied within the past two years and required them to recuse themselves from issues they had handled during that time.
OK. Stand by your guns; fulfill a campaign pledge. I'm with you. The Republican National Committee criticized that requirement and said the new administration was already violating it. Mr. Obama's nominee for deputy secretary of defense, William Lynn, has been a lobbyist for the defense contractor Raytheon, and his nominee for deputy secretary of health and human services, William V. Corr, lobbied for stricter tobacco regulations as an official with the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids.
A senior White House official, speaking on the condition of anonymity, conceded the two nominees did not adhere to the new rules. But he said that Mr. Lynn had the support of Republicans and Democrats, and would receive a waiver under the policy, and that Mr. Corr did not need a waiver because he had agreed to recuse himself from tobacco issues.
As the philosopher Scooby Doo might say: Awhroo? (That's cartoon dog for "Huh?") "When you set very tough rules, you need to have a mechanism for the occasional exception," this official said, adding, "We wanted to be really tough, but at the same time we didn't want to hamstring the new administration or turn the town upside down."
I'm deeply ambivalent about this whole thicket of issues, as I have at times contradictory feelings about it.
I thought Obama's sweeping condemnation of lobbyists was better campaign rhetoric than policy. The reality is that some lobbyists are as nefarious as advertised and some are not. Some want to turn their public service into big bucks and some turn around and help what we liberals would call good causes. And oh yeah: Many have experience that could be helpful for a new administration trying to enact its agenda.
I think that some substantial number of people who go through the so-called "revolving door" are a problem, and so I have some sympathy for tougher restrictions on that kind of back and forth.
But if you're going to campaign on sweeping condemnations about the evil of lobbyists and then, with great fanfare, ban them from your administration, you need to live by your own rules; or at least you shouldn't start making exceptions for them on Day 1.
Else the message is: It is important to prevent other administrations from doing business with lobbyists; but we are of such mor al character that the rules need not apply to us. That's a slippery slope and leads to problems (and specifically could lead to the ex-lobbyists not getting confirmed (http://washingtonindependent.com/26861/lobbyist-bill-lynn-probably-cant-be-deputy-defense-secretary-now), as Spencer Ackerman notes).



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Dr. Freakynutz
01-25-2009, 01:56 PM
who cares. the bad news is that obama continues to support warrantless wiretapping.

now, if they were wiretapping and piping Warrant in through the line then that would be sweet.

http://blogs.nashvillescene.com/nashvillecream/warrant.jpg

Joker
01-25-2009, 01:57 PM
:rotf:

http://wintersoldier1.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/hypocrites.gif

Joker
01-25-2009, 02:00 PM
You have no problem with him promising there'd be none and then breaking that promise less than a week into his term?

FYI the hypocrite thing wasn't directed at you

mule64
01-25-2009, 08:49 PM
Obama is already a liar, he is playing both sides of the fence to keep people on his side, while doing what he wants, so he can be re-elected.

Mr_Pat
01-25-2009, 08:54 PM
http://gatheringofthevibes.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=3&pictureid=383

mule64
01-25-2009, 09:12 PM
I have gotten the same response to a bunch of my posts recently. I must remind all of you how bad you all cried, whined, bitched, moaned the last few years about the past administration. I find it very hypocrtical to reply to my posts this way. Carry on....

Mr_Pat
01-25-2009, 09:14 PM
He isnt crying or whining.... he is yawning :lol:

mule64
01-25-2009, 09:22 PM
He isnt crying or whining.... he is yawning :lol:

:funny1::funny1: my bad LOL. But I will say that some of the things going on would spark an outrage in the past, now people just do not care enough (yawn at these outrageous acts) to make a stink.

Mr_Pat
01-25-2009, 09:25 PM
You know I hate to say it but, the older I get the less I care about shit..

At this rate by the time I am 50 I wont give 2 cents about any thing :lol:

mule64
01-25-2009, 09:27 PM
You know I hate to say it but, the older I get the less I care about shit..

At this rate by the time I am 50 I wont give 2 cents about any thing :lol:
:lol:

Elphaba
01-25-2009, 09:35 PM
i didn't say a word

:dhj:

seany
01-25-2009, 09:57 PM
While I think we can all agree that there's too much lobbyist influence in Washington and curtailing that should be a priority, doesn't it also make sense to hire the right people for the job? I'm sure there are others who could have filled the position, but I'm guessing this person's name rose to the top of the list of potential candidates.

Hey - at least he hasn't hired a bunch of convicted felons to top positions yet, as Bush was quick to do (e.g., John Poindexter, Elliot Abrams) :rolleyes:

mule64
01-25-2009, 10:02 PM
oh, if a lobbyist is the best man for the job, then great. But do not come out and say none are going to be hired, then hours later announce one has been hired. He talks of change, but it is the same old people doing the same old things.

Phishfolk
01-26-2009, 05:46 PM
If "Lobbyists will not find a job in my administration" wasn't one of the major legs of his platform then it wouldn't be a big deal. The fact that these lobbyists have republican support shouldn't mean a damn thing.

He said what he needed to get elected. He threw around words like hope and change like they ment something.

Blendix 007
01-28-2009, 06:28 PM
Geithner just hired a Goldman Sachs lobbyist for Treasury Chief of Staff as well.

I would think it's also worth mentioning that Geithner, himself, is a criminal hired by Obama. Not only did he not pay his taxes (you and I would go to jail for that), he fraudulently claimed the money spent on his kids' summer camp was child care, to get the child care credit. You and I would also be prosecuted for tax fraud but because he ran the Fed in NY, and is considered a brilliant economist ( I don't see it ) he gets away with it and gets a promotion. WTF?

Way to keep your admin on the straight and narrow President Obama.

Elphaba
01-28-2009, 09:01 PM
was it a day camp or an overnight camp?

PeaceFrog
01-31-2009, 07:03 PM
Your schtick is old and tired.
Let me know when you have something new to say.