What's wrong with what we eat???

[HoopsTer]

Take a few minutes to listen to this...

About this talk
In this fiery and funny talk, New York Times food writer Mark Bittman weighs in on what's wrong with the way we eat now (too much meat, too few plants; too much fast food, too little home cooking), and why it's putting the entire planet at risk.

About Mark Bittman
Mark Bittman is a bestselling cookbook author, journalist and television personality. His friendly, informal approach to home cooking has shown millions that fancy execution is no substitute…

http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/mark_bittman_on_what_s_wrong_with_what_we_eat.html

[Mama Kel]

That was great. Thanks for sharing. I usually feel like a throwback to the 50's because I cook everynight & we rarely eat out & almost never eat fast food. I think fast food is more of a habit than anything. I think b/c Frank & I were veggies for 6-7 years, we didn't develop that habit.

And I've been on a 'whole' foods kick + organic + local for about 5 years now (since I got preggers). Having kids has changed my perspective on food & eating dramatically - now that what I do directly affects them. My usual rule is that if I wouldn't give it to my kids, I shouldn't have it either

Although many people feed their kids tons of crap everyday

[HoopsTer]

That was great. Thanks for sharing. I usually feel like a throwback to the 50's because I cook everynight & we rarely eat out & almost never eat fast food.

That's probably one of the very best things you can do for your wellness!

I am happy someone took the time to watch this video. It's really important for people to see!!!

[seany]

He's been on several different NPR programs the past 2 months.

I read about 10 pages of his new book (Why Food Matters) one night in Borders and it looks like a good read. Keep meaning to go back and grab it.

[Erinisme]

great video totally supports what I think. Even when I eat meat I only eat a very small portion of it.....

I wish more people thought like us

[wowzers]

I only made it about 7 minutes into the video before it shutdown, but I'm not sure I can agree with it. I think there is substantial evidence that Man is an omnivore. Humans are meant to eat meat. Those first seven minutes suggested that we should only eat plants. I won't rant on it till I can watch the whole thing though.

[Mama Kel]

No he doesn't propose we only eat plants, but that a substantial part of our diets should be plants instead of meat, fast food & junk

[kramer]

there is a lot of support for both sides of the argument that we're "meant" to eat meat. missy went into a lot of detail in a thread on the old board about how meat just sits in our digestive tracts & rots, giving off toxic fumes and putting harmful bacteria into our systems... i think people should eat what makes them feel healthy. there's no way that eating a cheeseburger from a fast food chain for lunch every day will make you feel healthy. personally, i feel my healthiest when my diet is packed with whole grains, fresh produce, and limited amounts of meat, cheese, and other types of fat. listen to your body-- it knows what's up :)

[HoopsTer]

I only made it about 7 minutes into the video before it shutdown, but I'm not sure I can agree with it. I think there is substantial evidence that Man is an omnivore. Humans are meant to eat meat. Those first seven minutes suggested that we should only eat plants. I won't rant on it till I can watch the whole thing though.


You obviously didn't listen to the talk. He did NOT advocate vegetarianism. :rolleyes:

[HoopsTer]

there is a lot of support for both sides of the argument that we're "meant" to eat meat. missy went into a lot of detail in a thread on the old board about how meat just sits in our digestive tracts & rots, giving off toxic fumes and putting harmful bacteria into our systems... i think people should eat what makes them feel healthy. there's no way that eating a cheeseburger from a fast food chain for lunch every day will make you feel healthy. personally, i feel my healthiest when my diet is packed with whole grains, fresh produce, and limited amounts of meat, cheese, and other types of fat. listen to your body-- it knows what's up :)



:thumbsup:
Yes. It is about bio individuality. Some people are not meant to be vegetarians, some people need the animal protein and some people don't.

I spent the month of March being vegan. Half of it was wonderful for me (my digestion was better, my energy was better) and half wasn't that great (I had trouble with consentration and became more "flighty"). I knew that a strict vegetarian diet does not work for me. I will most likely eat animal protien in some quantity for the rest of my life. That being said, eating meat at breakfast, lunch and dinner is not healthy for humans or the environment. :)

[Nevrmore]

If I ate meat 3 meals a day, I would stop pooping!

[Nevrmore]

that being said, I am a big time carnivore

[HoopsTer]

If I ate meat 3 meals a day, I would stop pooping!

:lol:
me too.

But the very sad thing is that a lot of Americans DO eat that amount of animal protein.

When I was a kid, steak was a treat. It was expensive and not something you ate every day. With subsidized farming this has changed.

[Nevrmore]

that's insane, it reminds me of Burgess Merediths character in Grumpy Old Men (of course, when I'm that old, I'll eat what I want, too)

Aidan's diet is meat heavy at the moment, but he's hit another growth spurt (and at only 7.5 and 4ft11 we have found thru blood tests that for some reason Aidan has double the amount of growth hormone that he should have, he is burning thru calories at an astronomical rate), so I try to add as many fruits and veggies to it as he'll eat. I'm lucky in that he's a good (read: not picky) eater

today:
breakfast
2 over easy eggs
2 slices turkey bacon
1 slice 7grain toast
1 sliced up ruby red grapefruit

lunch (I pack)
Natural Peanut Butter and Polaner Strawberry on 7 grain bread
raw broccoli with homemade ranch dressing
water bottle
sliced pineapple

snack:
Joe's wifes granola

after school snack:
string cheese and apples

Dinner:
tacos (beef, lettuce, cheese, beans)
big salad with lettuce, cukes, green peppers and carrots

bedtime snack: (this is very important so he doesn't wake up cranky as fuck in the morning)

yogurt, granola, sliced banana

[HoopsTer]

((((growing boys)))) :heart:


How do you make your homemade ranch dressing????

[Nevrmore]

I use this one, but I leave out the sugar

http://www.tasteofhome.com/recipes/Ranch-Style-Buttermilk-Dressing

[kramer]

yum! i want to make that! :)

[kramer]

i <3 dill

[HoopsTer]

i <3 dill

Me too!! :)

I made carrotts the other day, and sauteed them with a little butter, dill and grade B maple syrup. :drool:

[Nevrmore]

Me too!! :)

I made carrotts the other day, and sauteed them with a little butter, dill and grade B maple syrup. :drool:

that's one of Karys' all time favorite side dishes. I make it at least 3x a week over here!

[wowzers]

You obviously didn't listen to the talk. He did NOT advocate vegetarianism. :rolleyes:

You obviously don't have reading comprehension. I said I only got to listen to seven minutes of it. However at around the 4:15 mark he says we don't need animals for health. What else its that saying, other than you don't need to eat meat (vegetarian). There are plenty of things that you get from animal products that you don't get from plants.

(Not directed at you) If you think that vegetarians are healthier is all in perspective. If you consider a 100 lb raw foodist who can't pick up half their body weight or walk more than 300 yards with out being exhausted then cool. I don't.

[Erinisme]

You obviously don't have reading comprehension. I said I only got to listen to seven minutes of it. However at around the 4:15 mark he says we don't need animals for health. What else its that saying, other than you don't need to eat meat (vegetarian). There are plenty of things that you get from animal products that you don't get from plants.

(Not directed at you) If you think that vegetarians are healthier is all in perspective. If you consider a 100 lb raw foodist who can't pick up half their body weight or walk more than 300 yards with out being exhausted then cool. I don't.

you don't need animal meat for health. you can be healthy without it. He doesn't say you can't have health with meat. It's just not a 100% needed thing. I have more health issues when I'm eating meat then when I cut it out or cut down on the amount I'm eating.

I think you should listen to the entire thing before you are willing to pass judgement.

[HoopsTer]

You obviously don't have reading comprehension. I said I only got to listen to seven minutes of it. However at around the 4:15 mark he says we don't need animals for health. What else its that saying, other than you don't need to eat meat (vegetarian). There are plenty of things that you get from animal products that you don't get from plants.

No where in his talk does he say that we should not eat meat. he is not advocating for everyone to be a vegetarian. He is saying that for the health of america, we should eat less meat.

Eating less meat is extremely different than advocating for vegetarianism. The last I checked, being a vegetarian meant eating no meat. :huh:

The US governement (with the help of the meat and dairy industry) has brainwashed the public into believing that milk and meat are requirements of being healthy.

Truth is, they're not a requirement. THAT is what he is saying.

Eat food, not too much, mostly plants.

[wowzers]

you don't need animal meat for health. you can be healthy without it. He doesn't say you can't have health with meat. It's just not a 100% needed thing. I have more health issues when I'm eating meat then when I cut it out or cut down on the amount I'm eating.

I think you should listen to the entire thing before you are willing to pass judgement.

Healthy once again is all in perspective. A 95 pound vegetarian that can't pick up half their body weight isn't all that healthy to me. I said in my original post I would rant on the whole video till I got a chance to listen to the entire thing. I merely commented on the portion that I watched, and in that 7 minutes the dude completely demonized meat eating and agriculture.

[HoopsTer]

I don't think he did. :undecided:
I think he demonized OVER CONSUMPTION of meat and corporate agriculture.


I also think there is a LARGE difference between eating meat and eating too much meat (as I Previously mentioned) and there is a LARGE difference between sustainable agriculture and corporate agribuisness.

[kramer]

wowzers- it sounds like you think that all 95 lb vegetarians are whimpy and unhealthy... haven't you ever met a super thin/in-shape/muscular person? not eating meat doesn't mean you don't have the ability to build muscle... so i'm confused.

[HoopsTer]

wowzers- it sounds like you think that all 95 lb vegetarians are whimpy and unhealthy... haven't you ever met a super thin/in-shape/muscular person? not eating meat doesn't mean you don't have the ability to build muscle... so i'm confused.

this man is vegan:

http://www.healthline.com/blogs/exercise_fitness/uploaded_images/VeganBodyBuilder-777782.jpg

Just sayin.

[sure-ur-rightdancer]

this video short has a very simliar message but is a bit shorter (like 2 min instead of 20) and more basic

http://www.cookinglight.com/eating-smart/nutrition/nutrition-essentials-eco-friendly-eating-video-00400000043812/

[Erinisme]

my sister's not vegan and 95 lbs and is quite strong...dances for hours at a clip.

my dad is 270lbs and can't out run a tortise.

They both eat meat...my sister a reasonable amount, my dad 24 ounces at a clip.

Health speaks wonders.

No one is telling you to not eat meat.

I've known some very healthy, althetic vegetairians, I also have had some very outta shape overweight vegetarin friends

[Nevrmore]

and then on the other side of the spectrum

I have a friend who is a vegatarian, but her diet is mostly candy bars and baked potatoes

My diet is pretty much lean meat, steamed or raw veggies and raw fruit

she's the "ideal" size 2 body at about 5ft3 and 105 lbs and gets winded going up the stairs

I clock in at about 235, I'm 6ft1 and I can play a 2 hour softball game and keep going, or do a 5k on the treadmill at 4mph and I'm fine.

[wowzers]

wowzers- it sounds like you think that all 95 lb vegetarians are whimpy and unhealthy... haven't you ever met a super thin/in-shape/muscular person? not eating meat doesn't mean you don't have the ability to build muscle... so i'm confused.

I agree you can build muscle and not eat meat. Perhaps I should rephrase myself. All too often I hear how unhealthy eating meat is from a 95 pound bag of bones who can't pick up half their body weight or run a mile. Are the exceptions? Sure. In actuality I misspoke when I said vegetarian and meant vegan.

[wowzers]

my sister's not vegan and 95 lbs and is quite strong...dances for hours at a clip.

my dad is 270lbs and can't out run a tortise.

They both eat meat...my sister a reasonable amount, my dad 24 ounces at a clip.

Health speaks wonders.

No one is telling you to not eat meat.

I've known some very healthy, althetic vegetairians, I also have had some very outta shape overweight vegetarin friends

95 pounds isn't the point. The diet is. Sounds like you sister is healthy following an omnivore type diet. You proved my point.

[HoopsTer]

And again, the point of the thread and the video was not that you shouldn't eat meat.

I eat meat.

The point of the video was over consumption is bad for not only your health but for the health of the planet.

[wowzers]

To summarize:

I said I only got to watch seven minutes of the video, but couldn't agree with all of it, because I think we are meant to be omnivores. He said we don't need animal products for health, I disagree. Also he said that we aren't born craving whoppers and skittles. However we are born craving breast milk,:eek: an animal product.

You said I obviously didn't watch the video:rolleyes:

I said your reading comprehension sucks as I already told you I only got to watch seven minutes, but couldn't agree with what he said. However in that seven minutes he demonizes meat and agriculture.

Then it turned into I think all 95 pound people are weak.

To which I said I was tired of a 95 pound bags of bones telling me they were healthier than me because they don't eat meat.

I agree over consumption is bad, it is about eating a balanced diet which I think includes animal products.

[SunshineDrummer]

I agree over consumption is bad, it is about eating a balanced diet which I think includes animal products.

I think most of us can agree on that.

[wowzers]

I think most of us can agree on that.

:jamguy: